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Re: Verizon/Qwest single end-user difficulty vs Xfinity


From: Darin Steffl <darin.steffl () mnwifi com>
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 16:06:52 -0500

Verizon does weird stuff with traffic in their cell network. Like wireguard
only running 1-2 Mbps over Verizon but faster on fixed like providers. I'm
assuming they rate limit certain protocols to avoid bypassing their
streaming video rate limits. I can see 200/30 Mbps on a 4G speedtest but
VPN runs very slow still.

Xfinity is better than cellular so I'd switch back. Any fixed cable, fiber,
wisp, or fast dsl provider should be better and more stable.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023, 2:51 PM Jeff Woolsey <jlw () jlw com> wrote:

Verizon 5G Internet Support is not at a high-enough pay grade to assess
this problem...  So I'm turning to y'all.

I'm trying to save $$$ and increase speed, using Verizon 5G Home
Internet to replace XFinity, even though they gave me a faster modem a
few weeks ago.  I run both of the modems in Bridge/Passthrough mode.

A friend of mine is nice enough to offer some offsite backup space, and
I use rsync over ssh to get there.  He's 1500 miles away.  He uses a
non-standard ssh port (keeps the doorknob twisters away).   This sort of
thing has been working without difficulty over Xfinity (my end) for
years.  He also changed his connection almost a month ago now, to Qwest,
I believe.

I try the same thing over Verizon [1] and ssh always times out, no
response.  We are also NTP peers, and that doesn't work well over
Verizon either. ICMP traceroutes and pings succeed.  UDP traceroutes do
not get any further than 207.109.3.78 (last hop before destination) .
Not every traceroute offers TCP, but MacOS does, and nothing responds to
any of that, even at the usual ssh port.  UDP traceroutes to either port
behave like an ordinary one, which it is.

Since I can get there via xfinity, I can traceroute, ping, but not ssh
back through Verizon.

I also set up an incoming (xfinity) port from the same non-standard ssh
port forwarding to regular ssh on a different system on my LAN, and when
I ssh -p <port>  that from Verizon (even cellphone data),  I get that
other system, and that works fine.  The 207... router is not in that path.

I can also ping the Verizon connection from Xfinity (and vice versa).

Go figure.

[1] This same difficulty occurs in Verizon's Looking Glass, from several
different places, and other Looking Glasses (e.g. Cogent, Equinix).  It
also occurs on my Verizon phone data connection (not WiFi).  If he were
serving more stuff out of his home, this would be a bigger problem.


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