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RE: RFC6598 100.64/10: to bogon or not to bogon (team-cymru et all)


From: Travis Garrison <tgarrison () netviscom com>
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 21:24:57 +0000

On 3/8/23 5:35 AM, Lukas Tribus wrote:
Perhaps I should have started this topic with a very specific example:

- ISP A has a residential customer "Bob" in RFC6598 space
- ISP A CGNATs Bob if the destination is beyond it's own IP space
- ISP A doesn't CGNAT if the destination is within its IP space (as
explained in the OP, this means reducing state and logging)
- ISP A has a cloud customer "Alice" running mail/webservers, which is
of course using public IP address space
- when Bob access Alice's mail/webserver, the source IP will show
RFC6598 addressing
- if Alice filters RFC6598, Bob can't connect
- Alice should not drop RFC6598, it should threat RFC6598 just like
every other public IP subnet

I argue that Alice should expect to not receive any traffic from 
non-globally routed IPs UNLESS her cloud provider has informed her that 
she should expect them.

I>'d say that they shouldn't send them to her without her acknowledgement 
~> consent to receive them.

Exactly

We use CGNAT in our network unfortunately. We skip CGNAT for internal resources only, to reduce logging,  load, etc. 
but all outbound and/or customer to customer traffic goes through the CGNAT. Only public IP addresses are allowed to 
communicate between customers.

Travis

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