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Re: Increasing problems with geolocation/IPv4 access


From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 17:15:38 -0800

What I’m actually looking for isn’t so much a soapbox but to find where the [bad] data is coming from so it can be 
updated as appropriate.  I’m also fine with telling the customer to phone the service/bank/whatnot (which is what I 
did in other cases and as much as I also personally dislike the centralization of the internet etc) - my customers do 
seem to really have good experience with a modern service like YoutubeTV (for example) - oh and it does IPv6 too.

Tragically, there’s no license necessary to stand up a geolocation service and the only enforcement of quality 
standards comes from losing business if enough of their clients complain. Tragically, their clients don’t know that 
they need to complain because their customers don’t know to blame the appropriate service. All they know is that stuff 
is broken. (Sure, a few know that broken because bad Geo-IP, but we are in the minority).

Since companies don’t generally disclose their Geo-IP source, there’s no ability to coordinate fixing stuff.

If you see this and go back to the original post, I am interested if you have seen that prefix or any IP space within 
it, and if it comes from a feed or set of aggregated feeds etc, even the name of the company or source/resources 
there so I can try knocking on the door.

I don’t see it in any of the few block-list feeds that I subscribe to. Best of luck in your search.

I don’t use IP geo-location (for the very same reasons stated in my previous post), so I can’t help you there.

Owen


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