Re: Google Speed Test

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

Ok.

But to the layperson, that is still not a meaningful test of Google's
capacity.

Say I'm a  'layperson' residential customer of an ISP with 1G service. I
run this speedtest, and I only get 500M to Google.

1. That may still be plenty of capacity for what the user WANTS to do, but
they're a layperson. They don't know that.
2. The reason the test peaked at 500M may have nothing to do with Google's
capacity. The ISP may have a bottleneck in their network. Perhaps said ISP
reaches Google via transit, and that upstream has a capacity issue
somewhere.

As Jared said, having strategically placed iperf endpoints for
knowledgeable folks to investigate possible capacity issues is nice to
have, but a ASN specific speedtest for end user diagnosis seems pretty
pointless. (Unless the goal is to direct support tickets to that specific
ASN instead of yourself. :) )


On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 10:31 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

> Is there enough available capacity for {insert whatever the customer is
> trying to do here}.
>
> Can they run 4 YouTubeTV streams or can they run 20?
> Can they download a file at 5 megabits/s or 15 gigabits/s?
>
> There's not a problem to be solved, but information of a variety of types
> to be gleaned for a variety of purposes.
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher () beecher cc>
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
> *Cc: *"NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 3, 2023 9:07:57 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Google Speed Test
>
> Are you saying that congestion doesn't exist?
> >
>
> Not sure how you took that from what I said. No, I am not.
>
> I am saying your request for a 'layperson' to run a speed test doesn't
> seem particularly useful to identify that anyways. It's not a first order
> tool.
>
> What is the problem you are trying to solve for?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 9:55 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
>
> > Are you saying that congestion doesn't exist?
> >
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> > *From: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher () beecher cc>
> > *To: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
> > *Cc: *"NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 3, 2023 8:50:35 AM
> > *Subject: *Re: Google Speed Test
> >
> > Does AS15169 have a speed test? It would be nice to gauge the capacity to
> > > a particular network that's something laypeople could do.
> >
> > 15169 has enough capacity to external networks that a speed test from a
> > random 'layperson' is never going to give you any meaningful information.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 11:42 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
> >
> > > Does AS15169 have a speed test? It would be nice to gauge the capacity
> > > to a particular network that's something laypeople could do. I could host
> > > something in GCP myself, but cloud is expensive.
> > >
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