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Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls)


From: sronan () ronan-online com
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 20:36:37 -0400

The FCC hasn’t enforced it because the burden on large carriers to collect that data would be insane. And it would be 
reduce the flexibility of large carriers to take on new traffic in disaster situations, which is one of the strongest 
points of the PSTN. It’s not like the carriers have the data and aren’t using it, they simply don’t have the data.

On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:


On 10/4/22 5:23 PM, Peter Beckman wrote:
On Tue, 4 Oct 2022, Michael Thomas wrote:

Exactly. And that doesn't require an elaborate PKI. Who is allowed to use what telephone numbers is an 
administrative issue for the ingress provider to police. It's the equivalent to gmail not allowing me to spoof 
whatever email address I want. The FCC could have required that ages ago.

 How does one carrier that gets DIDs from multiple other carriers
 communicate to the termination carrier selected during LCR that the DID
 set as CallerID is indeed serviced by that carrier and authorized to use
 said DID as CallerID?

 If a call is asynchronous, e.g. the DID carrier is not the terminating
 carrier, how can the termination carrier trust/know definitively that
 someone is allowed to use that CallerID?

 Don't forget the resellers!!!

My point is not that the termination carrier believe that it's legitimate (although that would be nice), but to get 
the originating carrier to police things before it ever gets forwarded. The FCC could have forced that ages ago in 
most cases. Requiring the receiving end to police things is fraught with false positives where the originating 
carrier has a lot more knowledge of who their customer is.

Mike



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