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Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls)
From: sronan () ronan-online com
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 20:36:37 -0400
The FCC hasn’t enforced it because the burden on large carriers to collect that data would be insane. And it would be reduce the flexibility of large carriers to take on new traffic in disaster situations, which is one of the strongest points of the PSTN. It’s not like the carriers have the data and aren’t using it, they simply don’t have the data.
On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote: On 10/4/22 5:23 PM, Peter Beckman wrote:On Tue, 4 Oct 2022, Michael Thomas wrote: Exactly. And that doesn't require an elaborate PKI. Who is allowed to use what telephone numbers is an administrative issue for the ingress provider to police. It's the equivalent to gmail not allowing me to spoof whatever email address I want. The FCC could have required that ages ago.How does one carrier that gets DIDs from multiple other carriers communicate to the termination carrier selected during LCR that the DID set as CallerID is indeed serviced by that carrier and authorized to use said DID as CallerID? If a call is asynchronous, e.g. the DID carrier is not the terminating carrier, how can the termination carrier trust/know definitively that someone is allowed to use that CallerID? Don't forget the resellers!!!My point is not that the termination carrier believe that it's legitimate (although that would be nice), but to get the originating carrier to police things before it ever gets forwarded. The FCC could have forced that ages ago in most cases. Requiring the receiving end to police things is fraught with false positives where the originating carrier has a lot more knowledge of who their customer is. Mike
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- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls), (continued)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Tom Beecher (Oct 05)
- RE: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Matthew Black (Oct 05)
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- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) John Levine (Oct 06)
- RE: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Brian Turnbow via NANOG (Oct 07)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Michael Thomas (Oct 07)
- RE: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Brian Turnbow via NANOG (Oct 10)
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- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Peter Beckman (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Michael Thomas (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) sronan (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Christopher Morrow (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) sronan (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Jawaid Bazyar (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Nathan Angelacos (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Michael Thomas (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) bzs (Oct 04)
- Re: FCC chairwoman: Fines alone aren't enough (Robocalls) Michael Thomas (Oct 04)