Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements

[bzs () theworld com]

Just to put a little more flesh on that bone (having spent about a
decade going to ICANN conferences):

Although organized under ICANN, address allocation would generally be
the role of IANA which would assign address blocks to RIRs for
distribution.

It's a useful distinction because IANA and the RIRs act fairly
independently from the umbrella ICANN org unless there's some very
specific reason for, e.g., the ICANN board to interfere like some
notion that the allocation of these addresses would (literally)
threaten the stability and security of the internet, or similar.

Offhand (and following comments by people of competent jurisdiction) I
can't see why IANA or the RIRs would resist this idea in
principle. It's just more stock in trade for them, particularly the
RIRs.

Other than they (IANA, RIRs) wouldn't do this unless the IETF issued a
formal redeclaration of the use of these addresses.

Anyhow, that's roughly how the governance works in practice and has
for over 20 years.

So, I think the first major move would have to be the IETF issuing one
or more RFCs redefining the use of these addresses which would then
put them into the jurisdiction of IANA who could then issue them
(probably piecewise) to the RIRs.

On June 14, 2022 at 13:21 gnu () toad com (John Gilmore) wrote:
> Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com> wrote:
> > > Then it was "what can we do with what we can afford" now it's more
> > > like "What can we do with what we have (or can actually get)"?
> >
> > Like, working on better software...
>
> Like, deploying the other 300 million IPv4 addresses that are currently
> lying around unused.  They remain formally unused due to three
> interlocking supply chain problems: at IETF, ICANN, and vendors.  IETF's
> is caused by a "we must force everyone to abandon trailing edge
> technology" attitude.  ICANN's is because nobody is sure how to allocate
> ~$15B worth of end-user value into a calcified IP address market
> dominated by government-created regional monopolies doing allocation by
> fiat.
>
> Vendors have leapfrogged the IETF and ICANN processes, and most have
> deployed the key one-line software patches needed to fully enable these
> addresses in OS's and routers.  Microsoft is the only major vendor
> seemingly committed to never doing so.  Our project continues to track
> progress in this area, and test and document compatability.
>
>      John
>      IPv4 Unicast Extensions Project 

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