Re: Frontier Dark Fiber

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

Here's the list of CLLI codes where you're no longer able to order dark fiber: 




https://www.fcc.gov/clli-code-list 




It seems odd as I look through there, finding COs with no competitive fiber and yet, they're on the list. 





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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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Midwest-IX 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul Timmins" <paul () telcodata us> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 1:45:37 PM 
Subject: Re: Frontier Dark Fiber 


Your rights under the ICA are dead. Since 2002 you were only able to order it if one end was in a tier 3 wirecenter, 
and it was killed in 2021 as an orderable product. 



https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/08/2020-25254/modernizing-unbundling-and-resale-requirements-in-an-era-of-next-generation-networks-and-services
 


There's an 8 year transition for existing unbundled dark fiber (February 28, 2029). Dark fiber loops were dead in 2002 
under the TRRO. 







On 7/13/22 07:45, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Oh, and I forgot to mention that my ICA has it. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 6:40:47 AM 
Subject: Frontier Dark Fiber 


I'm looking for a contact at Frontier that can discuss dark fiber. 


My current account exec says they don't offer it, yet prior conversations with him and a previous SE revealed that they 
very much did (just didn't have availability on the paths I wanted at the time). 


Their web site highlights it fairly proudly. 




I'm aware that availability varies. 


I'm aware that they likely don't want to sell it. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP