Re: ONTs

[Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]

I would have to imagine any QOS/traffic shaping is done in the OMCI and
hence would probably be in the GPON spec, g.984.  I would look there.

Just guessing it would hold true with XG/s/PON, NGPON, etc.

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:33 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 12:27 PM Josh Luthman
> <josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:
> > That's usually an OMCI control thing on the OLT (traffic shaping, qos).
> Do you have a specific question in mind?
>
> My dream, of course, is fq_codel (nowadays, sch_cake) on every
> potential bottleneck link. FQ for essentially zero latency for sparse
> packets, AQM for achieving
> far shorter queue lengths.
>
> I'd settle for an ONT that applied ethernet pause frames sanely so a
> smarter router upstream did the right things. There's a ton of smarter
> routers nowadays. Any ONT's
> that use pause frames and have very small onboard buffers?
>
> Been working on getting mikrotik up to speed on this incredibly long
> thread over here; https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=179307
>
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:04 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com> wrote:
> > > Does anyone have any insight as to the OS and overall capabilities of
> > > various ONT's? Traffic shaping/QoS and statistics?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 12:01 PM Shawn L via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> wrote:
> > > > Yes.  In our scenario the ONT is basically an ethernet bridge and
> provides a SIP end-point for calls.  There are models that have the router
> built-into them as well, but we've chosen not to use them at this point.
> > > > The battery we install is designed to run the voice portion for ~ 8
> hours (customers are offered a longer run-time battery for an additional
> fee).  There's some sensor wires from the ONT to the UPS so that we know
> when power is out, the battery is low or needs to be replaced, etc.  It
> also tells the ONT to turn off ethernet services when the power is out to
> preserve battery for the phone portion.  Though that behavior can be
> changed in software.
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 2:48pm
> > > > To: nanog () nanog org
> > > > Subject: Re: home router battery backup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/12/22 10:54 AM, Shawn L via NANOG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In $dayjob I work for a telco that deploys fiber to the home.  If we
> are providing voice services over fiber a battery backup is installed (we
> maintain) that powers the customer's phone in the event of a power outage.
> It does not power their router, etc.  99% of the customers do not install a
> UPS for their router, etc.  We try to explain that to customers, but we
> still get calls that they can't get on the Internet when their power is out.
> > > > So your voice is part of the modem which isn't a router? I assume it
> uses IP for voice.
> > > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
>
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