Re: Authoritative Resources for Public DNS Pinging

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

> Seems way easier than literally everything else being proposed to me, am I
> missing something?

I guess it depends on what the actual problem trying to be solved is.

If I understand it correctly, the OG issue was someone (who was not Google)
building some monitoring around the assumption of the idea that ICMP
echo-request/reply to 8.8.8.8 would always be available. Google decided to
make a change so that assumption was now false.

The actual problem here has nothing to do with how Google handles (or
doesn't handle) ICMP towards their servers. The issue is that people have
made poor assumptions about how they structured monitoring, and learned
some lessons about that. Suggesting that Party B should do something
because Party A made poor decisions is questionable, even if it is 75% of
what we do in this world.



On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:52 PM Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe <
lb () 6by7 net> wrote:

> Seems way easier than literally everything else being proposed to me, am I
> missing something?
> -LB
>
> Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
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> CEO
> ben () 6by7 net
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>
> On Feb 9, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
>
> Side note, am I missing something obvious where I can’t just have hardware
> > routers strip ICMP, pipe it separately, put 500 VMs behind 4 vLBs and let
> > the world ping the brains out of it?
>
> Seems like a lot of overhead for zero benefit.
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:11 PM Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe <
> lb () 6by7 net> wrote:
>
> > ok that’s amazing.
> >
> > RFC1149 amazing.
> >
> >
> > Side note, am I missing something obvious where I can’t just have
> > hardware routers strip ICMP, pipe it separately, put 500 VMs behind 4 vLBs
> > and let the world ping the brains out of it?
> >
> > Who owns 69.69.69.69 - collab?
> >
> > How naff is this?
> >
> > -LB
> >
> > Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
> > 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
> > CEO
> > ben () 6by7 net
> > "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company
> > in the world.”
> > ANNOUNCING: 6x7 GLOBAL MARITIME
> > <https://alexmhoulton.wixsite.com/6x7networks>
> >
> > FCC License KJ6FJJ
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Jay Hennigan <jay () west net> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/8/22 23:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> >
> > The only problem is the less friendly IP address (although this will
> > be less and less a problem with IPv6, since 2001:4860:4860::8888 is
> > not really friendly).
> >
> >
> > Fun fact: Someone at Sprint had the same hobby as I did in the early
> > 1970s. Their website resolves to 2600:: which I think is rather friendly.
> > :-)
> >
> > Please don't use it for an IPv6 ping target, thanks.
> >
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