Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

["K. Scott Helms" <kscott.helms () gmail com>]

The problem with this approach, and with scrubbing centers more generally,
is that while the cure might be better than the disease it doesn't result
in usable VOIP.  Voice customers don't care if things are _better_ but
their MOS scores are still below 2.

Scott Helms



On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:58 AM Compton, Rich A <Rich.Compton () charter com>
wrote:

> FYI, UTRS (Unwanted Traffic Removal Service
> https://team-cymru.com/community-services/utrs/) from Team Cymru is a
> free service where you can send a blackhole advertisement (sacrificing the
> one IP that’s under attack to save the rest of the network) and they will
> propagate that via BGP to hundreds of other ASNs which will then blackhole
> traffic to that IP.  This can drastically reduce the amount of DDoS traffic
> that is received by the victim network.
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> -Rich
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> *From: *NANOG <nanog-bounces+rich.compton=charter.com () nanog org> on
> behalf of Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
> *Date: *Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 9:29 AM
> *To: *Terrance Devor <ter.devor () gmail com>
> *Cc: *NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes
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> Fail2Ban on a couple of dozen servers may not be sufficient to address 400
> gigs of traffic.
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> *From: *"Terrance Devor" <ter.devor () gmail com>
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
> *Cc: *"NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:24:07 AM
> *Subject: *Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes
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> Fail2Ban and give ourselves a pat on the back..
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> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 9:12 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
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> https://twit.tv/shows/security-now/episodes/837?autostart=false
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> It looks like Security Now covered this yesterday. They claimed that,
> "There  is  currently  no  provider of  large  pipe  VoIP  protocol  DDoS
>  protection."
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> Are any of the cloud DDoS mitigation services offering a service like this.
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> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
> *To: *"NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:19:42 PM
> *Subject: *VoIP Provider DDoSes
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> As many may know, a particular VoIP supplier is suffering a DDoS.
> https://twitter.com/voipms
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> Are your garden variety DDoS mitigation platforms or services equipped to
> handle DDoSes of VoIP services? What nuances does one have to be cognizant
> of? A WAF doesn't mean much to SIP, IAX2, RTP, etc.
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
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