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Re: HBO Max Contact


From: Lukas Tribus <lukas () ltri eu>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 19:27:18 +0200

Hello Kevin,


On Tue, 7 Sept 2021 at 16:57, Kevin McCormick <kmccormick () mdtc net> wrote:

HBO did respond to contact form page on website.


They referred us to Digital Elements.

It's IP geolocation done right, as per the white-paper [1]:

- distrusting WHOIS data
- distrusting ISP provided data
- not providing any check/demo page
- not providing any contact information for victims (end users or ISPs)
- amazing real time updates based on ... things:

Digital Element utilizes patented web-spidering technology and 20+ proprietary methods
to triangulate the location, connection speed, and many other characteristics associated
with an IP address. By combining this "inside-out" infrastructure analysis with "outside-in"
user location feedback gleaned from a network of commercial partners to improve and
validate its response at a hyperlocal level (city/postcode/ZIP+4), Digital Element can
identify where the user actually accesses the Internet down to the ISP’s end-point
equipment.
[...]
"With such an extensive customer network performing more than 10 trillion IP lookups
per month, the company is able to pick up IP address reallocations the instant they
occur, ensuring that data remains highly current and accurate."


And just to reiterate one more time:

By combining this "inside-out" infrastructure analysis with "outside-in"
user location feedback gleaned from a network of commercial partners to improve and
validate its response at a hyperlocal level (city/postcode/ZIP+4), Digital Element can
identify where the user actually accesses the Internet down to the ISP’s end-point
equipment.

and again:

the company is able to pick up IP address reallocations the instant they occur


's all good, man!


[1] https://www.digitalelement.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IPGEO-myths-facts.pdf


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