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Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge


From: "dc () darwincosta com" <dc () darwincosta com>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 17:11:06 +0200



On 1 Oct 2021, at 16:46, Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:



On 10/1/21 16:19, Blake Hudson wrote:


I'll never understand over how ISPs see content providers as the enemy (or a rival). The content is why ISPs have 
customers. Don't get upset when your customer uses the service that you sold them (in a way that is precisely in 
accordance with the expected usage)!

It's because infrastructure (that's us, the network operators), still don't get it.

We are no longer front & centre in the eyes of our users. They see us as an impediment... providers they must buy 
costly megabytes of mobile data from, providers they must call to fix broken fibre, providers they must shout at when 
a single CGN IPv4 address they sit behind breaks their Netflix, and so on and so on.

Users only care about the service they use their mobile phone, tablet, console or laptop for. They don't care how 
many customers their ISP has, whether the ISP is a small mom & pop or some global behemoth, or whether the ISP's CEO 
is was on the cover of TIME magazine last week.

As my American friend used to say, "They just want their MTV".

In the late 90's and early 2000's, when content folk wanted to work with us, infrastructure folk, to grow their 
businesses, we just saw easy, free money to tax toward our shiny new Lamborghinis and beach side holiday villas. 
Well, guess whom we are now begging for seats on their submarine cable build projects, community funding programs, 
and caches to be installed in our not-so-huge data centres, all for free?

The reason Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, e.t.c., all built their own global backbones is because of this 
nonsense that SK Broadband is trying to pull with Netflix. At some point, the content folk will get fed up, and go 
build it themselves. What an opportunity infrastructure cost itself!

Akamai have also quietly been building their own backbone. Wonder why.

No doubt Netflix have someone either thinking about the same, or putting a plan into motion.

The bad news now, is, there are plenty of many, small, local and regional ISP's who are willing to do whatever it 
takes to work with the content providers. All that's required is some network, a half-decent data centre and an 
exchange point. Gone are the days where customers clamored to sign up with Big Telco.

If anyone wonders why "infrastructure is dead", well, this is why.

21 years later, and we still don't get it! No wonder the mobile companies are watching their slow death, from the 
rosy days of billions from basic SMS, to the perils of 5G investments for diddly return.

Wake me up when all this is over. I'll be in my wine stupor until then.
I couldn’t agree more. 

Mark.

Cheers. 
Darwin-. 

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