Re: gofundme Medical Expenses - Ed Hew

[Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>]

Tom,

I think it’s fair to defend good and decent ideas on NANOG.

In my opinion, it’s a good and decent idea that we spend a tiny amount of bandwidth acknowledging Internet pioneers and 
helping them as they encounter unexpected adversity. Jim’s posting of Ed Hew’s GoFundMe is just such a good and decent 
idea. I think Jim for it.

Not all of us are blessed with well-paying jobs and benefits at Fortune 500 companies. And health crises can strike any 
of us.

There, but for the grace of God, go we all.

  -mel

On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc<mailto:beecher () beecher cc>> wrote:

Guys, let's maybe turn the temperature down a bit.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org<mailto:mel () beckman org>> wrote:
Bill,

So, we can only mention in this forum the actual death of Internet pioneers, such as Mark Crispin, Jon Postel, and 
Jeanette Symons?

What if the person’s health is tied to a major infrastructure component, such as 
http://www.registry.ca?<http://www.registry.ca/?> No? Not a valid “operational” case?

Your position seems to be "let us nip this in sad news the bud, before it spreads". Because, I guess, there are 
literally millions of selfless Internet pioneers, and we don’t want NANOG to be flooded with their memories, or at 
least their pleas for modest assistance as a token of appreciation for their lifetime of contribution.

“NANOG owes them nothing!”, you didn’t say, but I heard.

 -mel

On Jan 25, 2021, at 9:23 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us<mailto:bill () herrin us>> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 8:40 AM Jim Mercer <jim () reptiles org<mailto:jim () reptiles org>> wrote:
unsure if this is allowed or not, but, here goes.

Hi Jim,

This is a lie. If you weren't sure, you'd have asked if it was ok to
do the thing without actually doing the thing. That you went ahead and
did it says you were pretty sure it was against the rules and figured
you could get away with it. You may be right but the lie compounds the
offense.

I'm sorry to hear about Ed. Nevertheless, a lot of us are getting on
in age and health and the Internet doesn't need another mailing list
about how sad it is to grow old.

May I suggest: spend a line in your signature block on the off-topic
things you want folks on this group to know. And then attach it only
to messages which are on topic.

Regards,
Bill Herrin