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Re: DoD IP Space
From: John Curran <jcurran () istaff org>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:32:24 -0500
Brandon - Agreed – the key phrase being "within a more limited scope” … /John
On 20 Jan 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brandon Martin <lists.nanog () monmotha net> wrote: On 1/20/21 12:52 PM, John Curran wrote:<chuckle> While route hijacking isn't necessarily an ARIN issue, I will note that several US law enforcement agencies (FBI & NCIS Cybercrime units) are quite interested in such events and do investigate them looking for criminal activity. (See https://pc.nanog.org/static/published/meetings/NANOG77/2108/20191028_Elverson_Your_As_Is_v1.pdf for details.)I think the difference is semantic but a very important one nonetheless. Announcing a netblock that isn't yours and that you don't have authorization to use to others under the same terms and assumptions as you announce those to which you do hold legitimate rights or otherwise purporting to be a legitimate user of them on what we know as the "public Internet", that is the Internet where numbers are managed by IANA and the relevant RIRs is a "big deal". Using numbers in a manner contrary to how they are assigned on the "public Internet" within a more limited scope where everybody agrees that the use of such numbers may be contrary to IANA and relevant RIR assignments is more along the lines of "you operate your network however you want". Other things would fall under the same purview. For example "alternate root" DNS hierarchies with extra TLDs or even TLDs used in contrast to ICANN recommendations would have similar considerations. -- Brandon Martin
Current thread:
- Re: DoD IP Space, (continued)
- Re: DoD IP Space surfer (Jan 22)
- Re: DoD IP Space Valdis Klētnieks (Jan 22)
- Re: DoD IP Space Sabri Berisha (Jan 23)
- Re: DoD IP Space Randy Bush (Jan 21)
- Re: DoD IP Space Randy Bush (Jan 21)
- Re: DoD IP Space Doug Barton (Jan 22)
- Re: DoD IP Space Dorn Hetzel (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Bryan Fields (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space John Curran (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Brandon Martin (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space John Curran (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Eric Kuhnke (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Bryan Fields (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Eric Kuhnke (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Sabri Berisha (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space Owen DeLong (Jan 20)
- Re: DoD IP Space borg (Jan 21)
- Re: DoD IP Space Clayton Zekelman (Jan 22)
- Re: DoD IP Space Izaac (Jan 22)