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Re: Parler
From: Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 21:50:05 +0000
Unless the courts rule or the legislators enact legislation making them a public utility. In legal circles there is a theory that platforms like Facebook, messaging services, etc. might achieve such importance to public life and discourse as to merit regulation under the grounds they are an essential utility. I am neutral regarding this idea - I have not studied it and also realize that Amazon is not strictly speaking a social media. So my point is tangential. As a big fan of the 1st amendment, but someone deeply appalled by the riot last week and keenly aware of how social media are letting the mud to the surface, I am very perplexed how to reconcile free speech and the garbage flowing through our social streets. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany.com () nanog org> on behalf of Brielle <bruns () 2mbit com> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:20 PM To: sronan () ronan-online com <sronan () ronan-online com> Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: Parler They’re a private company. The same statues that give providers the right to refuse spam and block abuse give them the right to fire customers for whatever reason they want. If their contract with Parler says they can be terminated for violations of TOS / AUP or (more likely) for any reason Amazon decides, then it’s a done deal. ‘Frea Speeks’ as we liked to joking call it when spammers made the claim, is a govt thing. Private businesses aren’t bound by the 1st amendment. Sent from my iPad
On Jan 10, 2021, at 6:44 AM, sronan () ronan-online com wrote: While Amazon is absolutely within their rights to suspend anyone they want for violation of their TOS, it does create an interesting problem. Amazon is now in the content moderation business, which could potentially open them up to liability if they fail to suspend any other customer who hosts objectionable content. When I actively hosted USENET servers, I was repeatedly warned by in-house and external counsel, not to moderate which groups I hosted based on content, less I become responsible for moderating all groups, shouldn’t that same principal apply to platforms like AWS and Twitter? Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2021, at 3:24 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote: Anybody looking for a new customer opportunity? It seems Parler is in search of a new service provider. Vendors need only provide all the proprietary AWS APIs that Parler depends upon to function. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/09/amazon-parler-suspension/ Regards, Bill HErrin
Current thread:
- Re: Parler, (continued)
- Re: Parler John Von Essen (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler John Levine (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Jay R. Ashworth (Jan 13)
- Re: Parler james jones (Jan 14)
- Re: Parler niels=nanog (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Wayne Bouchard (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler niels=nanog (Jan 10)
- RE: Parler Keith Medcalf (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Matthew Petach (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Rod Beck (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Jay Hennigan (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Richard Porter (Jan 10)
- RE: Parler Keith Medcalf (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler Matthew Petach (Jan 10)
- Re: Parler William Herrin (Jan 10)
- Re: more bad lawyering about Parler John Levine (Jan 10)
- Re: more bad lawyering about Parler William Herrin (Jan 10)
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- Re: more bad lawyering about Parler William Herrin (Jan 11)
- Re: more bad lawyering about Parler Joe Greco (Jan 11)
- Re: more bad lawyering about Parler William Herrin (Jan 11)