RE: Show NOCs: OIG report: Should you charge extra for NOC tours?

[Robert DeVita <radevita () mejeticks com>]

The NOC tours at AT&T and Verizon are no joke. A datacenter NOC tour or a smaller carrier NOC tour, ehh




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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+radevita=mejeticks.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Brandon Svec
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:47 PM
To: nanog list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Show NOCs: OIG report: Should you charge extra for NOC tours?

Don’t dismiss and underestimate the curiousity and amazement of those who have not seen such things in person. In the 
San Francisco Bay Area and Silicon Valley area tourists come from around the world to see signs and parking lots of 
places like Google, Twitter, etc. it is easy for me to scoff at them, but I try not to. 

It is not really different than most other tourist attractions. Some are amazed and curious to see the largest ball of 
twine and some think it is ridiculous. 

Brandon Svec 


> On Jan 7, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > almost all of this seems like ... really not worth the time for 
> > external people to bother with.
> > which is maybe why: "Sure, you wanna visit? pay me" (Oh, now you dont'
> > want to visit? ok, cool!)
>
> I'm imagining a bunch of MBA's at large carriers thinking, gee the NOC is treated as a cost center. How can we make 
> the NOC a profit center?
>
> I know -- Let's sell NOC tour tickets!
>
>
> On the other hand, NASA (or SpaceX) I would still go on a tour of 
> Mission Control during a launch (geek out)