Re: Internet Routing Registry folks - Important - (Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation Now Open on the Future of ARIN’s IRR)

[Martijn Schmidt via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

Hi John,

Thanks for the answer. In that case I would recommend to continue providing the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream beyond the 
system shutdown state, while continuing to allow for stale objects to be deleted: manually, or automated based on 
Whois-RWS OriginAS data, or automated based on IRR-online data, or automated based on RPKI ROA data. Ideally all four, 
especially the automated ones..

While September 2021 may seem a long time away, you'll probably still impact somebody that didn't read the mails by 
outright removing the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream rather than working to clean it up.

Best regards,
Martijn Schmidt
i3D.net / AS49544
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From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Sent: 08 February 2021 17:25
To: Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt () i3d net>
Cc: nanog list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Internet Routing Registry folks - Important - (Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation Now Open on the Future of 
ARIN’s IRR)

Martijn -

This does not affect entries in the ARIN’s Whois system so OriginAS fields are unaffected.

The new IRR-online system was a clean slate when announced and all objects therein have been freshly created by the 
authorized party.   Folks with routing information in the unauthenticated email-IRR system have the option to port 
their data into the new IRR (see https://www.arin.net/announcements/20200610-irr/ for details) until email-IRR shutdown 
at the end of September 2021.   Note that ARIN will not be porting that data.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


On 8 Feb 2021, at 11:10 AM, Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt () i3d net<mailto:martijnschmidt () i3d net>> wrote:

Hi John,

What happens to the route objects (and for that matter the OriginAS field in the Whois-RWS system) that were created 
before the IRR-online service was launched? Are the route objects (and/or OriginAS fields from the Whois-RWS system) 
which were registered by ARIN members for their own directly allocated ARIN resources going to be ported along to the 
new system (e.g. not proxy-registered objects), or do we start with a fully clean slate where it is expected that 
everyone re-creates their route objects in the IRR-online service before the September 2021 deadline?

Best regards,
Martijn Schmidt
i3D.net<http://i3d.net/> / AS49544
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Sent: 08 February 2021 16:57
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Subject: Internet Routing Registry folks - Important - (Fwd: [arin-announce] Consultation Now Open on the Future of 
ARIN’s IRR)

NANOGers -

If you make use of ARIN’s unauthenticated IRR service or the NONAUTH data stream in your route filtering, please take 
note of the following ARIN consultation.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


Begin forwarded message:

From: ARIN <info () arin net<mailto:info () arin net>>
Subject: [arin-announce] Consultation Now Open on the Future of ARIN’s IRR
Date: 8 February 2021 at 10:46:18 AM EST
To: "arin-announce () arin net<mailto:arin-announce () arin net>" <arin-announce () arin net<mailto:arin-announce () 
arin net>>

ARIN has been engaged in a multi-year project to create and deploy a new and improved Internet Routing Registry (IRR). 
On 10 June 2020 (https://www.arin.net/announcements/20200610-irr/), we launched IRR-online, an authenticated and 
web-based service designed to make it simple for users to publish routing information via ARIN’s website. At that time, 
the existing IRR-email system was temporarily left in place to allow organizations to continue using email-based 
updates to publish routing information (in the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream).

On 1 February 2021 (https://www.arin.net/announcements/20210201-rn/), we deployed a RESTful API to provide a way to 
securely automate updates to objects in ARIN’s authenticated IRR service.

With the availability of automation for ARIN’s new IRR system, we intend to retire ARIN’s previous non-authenticated, 
email-based IRR service at the end of September 2021. We are providing advance notice of this plan so that 
organizations using the non-authenticated and email-based IRR will have time to switch publication of their routing 
registry information to a more current solution. Similarly, by establishing a firm end date for the non-authenticated 
and email-based IRR, organizations making use of the outdated and non-authenticated IRR data stream can be ready for 
when ARIN ceases publishing the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream.

The authenticated IRR is available to all ARIN resource holders that have resources covered by a signed Registration 
Services Agreement (RSA) or Legacy Registration Services Agreement (LRSA). Organizations with resources not currently 
under an RSA/LRSA that wish to use the authenticated IRR may contact ARIN’s Registration Services Department for 
assistance with bringing those registrations under an RSA/LRSA.

We recognize that this change will have significant impacts on our customers and, as always, we’re interested in your 
feedback regarding this proposed transition. In particular, we would appreciate hearing from the ARIN community 
regarding these aspects of the proposed transition:

1. For those using ARIN’s email-based and non-authenticated IRR system, does the proposed shutdown date of 30 September 
2021 provide sufficient time for migration to another IRR system?

2. For those making use of the ARIN-NONAUTH data stream, is there any reason to provide this information beyond the 
system shutdown date?

The community feedback provided during this consultation will help inform how we move forward. Please provide comments 
to arin-consult () arin net<mailto:arin-consult () arin net>. You can subscribe to this mailing list at:

http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult

This consultation will remain open through 5:00 PM ET on Monday, 8 March.

Regards,

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)