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STOP USING FONT SIZE SMALL Was: Re: LOAs for Cross Connects - Something like PeeringDB for XC


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:40:39 +1100

Really, does anyone here think that it is good form to send email with font size *SMALL*?
If your MUA does this by default complain to the developers.  The default should be “medium”.
If the font is too big on your screen change the magnification *you* choose to display to *yourself*,
don’t change the font size you send to everyone else.

Mark

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On 23 Feb 2021, at 04:03, Douglas Fischer <fischerdouglas () gmail com> wrote:

Well... I must confess that I had some difficulty on the first understanding of what is proposed.

But after the 4 reads, I saw that this "spaghetti" thing is more powerful than I could imagine!


Please correct me if I'm no right:
But it looks like a "crypto sign and publishes" anything related to an organization.

Yes, I think that with some effort CrossConnect LOAs can be fitted inside of it...
I'm not sure if it is the better solution for the scope of LOAs, but certainly is a valid discussion.


What is bubbling in my mind is the standard data model for each type of different attribute that can exist...
Who will define that?



Em seg., 22 de fev. de 2021 às 12:26, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> escreveu:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:19 AM Douglas Fischer
<fischerdouglas () gmail com> wrote:

I believe that almost everyone in here knows that LOAs for Cross Connects in Datacenters and Telecom Rooms can be a 
pain...

I don't know if I'm suggesting something that already exists.
Or even if I'm suggesting something that could be unpopular for some reason.

But every time I need to deal with some Cross-Connect LOA, and mostly when we face some rework on data mistakes, I 
dream with a "PeeringDB for Cross Connects".


are you asking about something like this:
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-rsc/

Which COULD be used to, as an AS holder:
  "sign something to be sent between you and the colo and your intended peer"

that you could sign (with your rpki stuffs) and your peer could also
sign with their 'rpki stuffs', and which the colo provider could
automatically validate and action upon final signature(s) received.

So, this mail is a question and also a suggestion.


There is something like an "online notary's office" exclusive for Cross-Connect LOAs?
 - Somewhere Organizations can register information authorizing connections of Port on their Places (Cages, Racks, 
etc)...


The RPKI data today doesn't contain information about
cages/ports/patch-panels, so possibly the spaghetti draft isn't a
terrific fit?

If it doesn't exist. What would be necessary for that?
Mostly considering the PeeringDB work model.
 - OpenSource.
 - Free access to the tool, and sponsors to keep the project alive.
 - API driven, with some Web-gui.
And considering some data-modeling.
 - Most of the data being Open/Public (Organizations, Facilities(Datacenters and/or Telecom-Rooms), Presence on 
Facilities, etc).
 - Access control to Information that can not be public (A-side organization, Z-Side Organization, PathPanel/Port).
And some workflow
 - Cross Connect Requiremento/Authorization from A-Side
 - Acceptance/Authorization from Z-side.
 - Acceptance/Authorization from Facilities involved (could be more than one)
 - Execution/Activation notice from Facilities.


--
Douglas Fernando Fischer
Engº de Controle e Automação


-- 
Douglas Fernando Fischer
Engº de Controle e Automação

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