RE: Google IP Geolocation

["Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf () dessus com>]

Does nothing.  Does it require permitting the unfettered execution of arbitrary untrusted and untrustworthy code 
perchance?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+kmedcalf=dessus.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of
> William Guo
> Sent: Saturday, 10 April, 2021 02:49
> To: MunFai Lee <munfai () bubblenut sg>
> Cc: NANOG Mailing List <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation
>
> Do you mind trying https://ipinsight.io/ and see if they're correct
> locations (we're 100% confident)?
>
> And see if anyone from Google could have a try on our data to help its
> users.
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:28 AM MunFai Lee <munfai () bubblenut sg
> <mailto:munfai () bubblenut sg> > wrote:
>
>
>       We're also having similar issues - Google is detecting our Singapore
> IP range as coming from HK, and our HK Ip range as coming from Vietnam
>
>       Just applied for access to Google's ISP portal - let's see what
> happens.
>
>       If anyone else have any more ideas how to get Google to fix this,
> please do share - my users are getting fed up!
>
> ________________________________
>
>       From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+munfai=bubblenut.sg () nanog org
> <mailto:bubblenut.sg () nanog org> > on behalf of Benjamin Hatton
> <bhatton () htva net <mailto:bhatton () htva net> >
>       Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 9:47 PM
>       Cc: NANOG Mailing List <nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org> >
>       Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation
>
>       Just as another viewpoint on this.
>
>       We do not peer or have GGC Cache servers, but I put in a request for
> a portal account after seeing this thread, and it was approved in less
> than 24h, so YMMV.
>
>       The only thing I can think of that is different, is that we do move
> enough traffic for Google to have us flagged as 'Your traffic levels
> qualify for Google Peering' (~2.5Gbps) and are an eyeball network.
>
>
>       Ben Hatton
>
>       Network Engineer | Haefele Connect
>
>       d:(607)589-8000 | ben () haefeleconnect com
> <mailto:ben () haefeleconnect com>
>
>
>        <https://www.htva.net>
>
>
>       On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:15 AM Troy Kelly via NANOG
> <nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org> > wrote:
>
>
>               We've also been denied access to the ISP portal.
>
>               When we replied as to why, we were told to not open another
> ticket. They aren't interested in conversation.
>
>
>               Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
>               -------- Original Message --------
>               On 30 Mar 2021, 6:53 am, Mike Hammett < nanog () ics-il net
> <mailto:nanog () ics-il net> > wrote:
>
>
>                       I've had others at Google specifically say that portal
> should be used for that purpose, so maybe they need to make sure right
> and left hands know what the other is doing.
>
>
>
>
>                       -----
>                       Mike Hammett
>                       Intelligent Computing Solutions
>                       http://www.ics-il.com
>
>                       Midwest-IX
>                       http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>                       From: "Josh Luthman" <josh () imaginenetworksllc com
> <mailto:josh () imaginenetworksllc com> >
>                       To: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists () gmail com
> <mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com> >
>                       Cc: nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org>
>                       Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:52:48 PM
>                       Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation
>
>
>                       https://isp.google.com
>
>
>                       I signed up for an account there and they said:
>
>                       "Currently, the Google ISP portal is designed for our
> partners of GGC, PNI or IX programs.
>
>                       The access to portal is granted on request only to our
> partners."
>
>                       Josh Luthman
>                       24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>                       Direct: 937-552-2343
>                       1100 Wayne St
>                       Suite 1337
>                       Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>                       On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:08 PM Christopher Morrow
> <morrowc.lists () gmail com <mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com> > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>                               On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 1:59 PM Josh Luthman
> <josh () imaginenetworksllc com <mailto:josh () imaginenetworksllc com> >
> wrote:
>
>
>                                       Google ISP specifically told me they didn't
> want to do deal with geolocation on the ISP portal.
>
>
>
>
>                               unsure who 'google isp' is here, but ... I think if
> you point at a properly formed geo-location data file it'll get eaten and
> produce proper results for you.
>                               you do have to add that in your isp portal:
>                                  tri-pipe-thingy -> configuration -> IP
> geolocation
>                               and /register feed/ button on that page.
>
>
>                                       Josh Luthman
>                                       24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>                                       Direct: 937-552-2343
>                                       1100 Wayne St
>                                       Suite 1337
>                                       Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>                                       On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:28 PM Christopher
> Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com <mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com> > wrote:
>
>
>                                       As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place
> to put a link to your RFC8805 format geolocation feed...
>                                       these are scraped out 'regularly' and help
> keep things oriented better for folks.
>
>                                       the ietf noc folk use this method to tell
> google (and other folk who scrape out our data) where meetings are before
> the meetings get there:
>                                         https://noc.ietf.org/geo/google.csv
>
>                                       -chris
>                                       volunteer noc persona
>
>                                       On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:43 PM Michael K.
> Spears <michael () spears io <mailto:michael () spears io> > wrote:
>
>
>                                       Awesome, I think I’ve figured out the Google
> ISP portal signup, but it definitely seems semi-complicated in a way,
> notably finding the link…
>
>
>
>                                       Thank you,
>
>                                       Michael K. Spears
>
>                                       727.656.3347
>
>
>
>                                       From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net
> <mailto:nanog () ics-il net> >
>                                       Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:30 PM
>                                       To: Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io
> <mailto:michael () spears io> >
>                                       Cc: nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org>
>                                       Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation
>
>
>
>                                       We're working on a video to show people how to
> sign up for the ISP portal and get to that part of the portal once signed
> up. We'll drop a link to it near the Google section of our geolocation
> page.
>
>
>
>                                       -----
>                                       Mike Hammett
>                                       Intelligent Computing Solutions
>                                       http://www.ics-il.com
>
>                                       Midwest-IX
>                                       http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>                                       From: "Michael K. Spears" <michael () spears io
> <mailto:michael () spears io> >
>                                       To: nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org>
>                                       Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 5:10:23 PM
>                                       Subject: Google IP Geolocation
>
>                                       Anyone have a good contact at Google who can
> help with IP geolocation? I have a /24 where anything related to Google
> is in the wrong language.
>
>
>
>                                       Thank you,
>
>                                       Michael K. Spears