Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations [ID #5475871x3]

[Brielle <bruns () 2mbit com>]

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On 10/19/2020 10:10 AM, Brielle wrote:
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>         Anyone know what the hell this "BuyGoods" crap is on some of the NANOG
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> On 10/19/2020 9:55 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
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> I haven't tried one myself, but Dasan Zhone has the M2400 and M3000. 
> Basically, a whitebox with IP Infusion code on it. New, I think the 
> price point is sub $2000 to $4000 new. That's a ton of ports for that 
> price point. Anyone tried these 
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> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 3:38 AM tim () pelican org <mailto:tim () pelican org> 
> <tim () pelican org <mailto:tim () pelican org>> wrote:
> On Saturday, 17 October, 2020 00:41, "Tony Wicks" <tony () wicks co nz 
> <mailto:tony () wicks co nz>> said:
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>  > Well, there is always the MX104 (if you want redundancy) or MX80 if you
>  > dont. That will give you 80gig wire speed just dont load it up with
>  > more than one full table.
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> Bear in mind that the MX80 is now in the EoL process, you have <4 years 
> of support left. Depending on your expected life-time / depreciation 
> rules, buying one new right now might be unwise.
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> Do *not* throw a full table at it (or any of the PowerPC Junipers) 
> unless you have a lot of patience for reconvergence, and black-holes 
> while you wait.
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> MX104 is a nice box for getting dual-RE in something relatively compact 
> and cheap, and has environmental hardening if that matters to you, but 
> is still not best pleased with full tables.
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> OP could do with clarifying "cheap" :)
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> Regards,
> Tim.


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