Re: Residential GPON last mile for network engineers (Telus AS852 and others)

[Paul Nash <paul () nashnetworks ca>]

I have a Bell Canada gig fibre connection.  My first attempt was to bridge their all-in-one box (disaster, unreliable 
as all hell), second was to set a bunch of rules for inbound traffic.  Apart from inbound access being *very* iffy, 
their device was s_l_o_w.

So I pulled the fibre GBIC, used a small switch to grab the correct VLAN and pointed that at a small Cisco box.  Way 
more flexible, faster and more reliable than Bell’s box.  DSLreports had all the info needed to get the correct VLANs

YMMV

> On Oct 13, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com> wrote:
>
> Very interesting. Looks like the intention is to bypass the ONT entirely and use a GPON ONT SFP in ones own choice of 
> small home router. If the ISP wants to do some weird TR069 provisioning or other stuff it could be seen as 
> interfering with the proper management of their network if you remove the CPE entirely.
>
> In an ideal world, personally I would be totally fine with keeping a telco provided small ONT configured as a dumb L2 
> bridge, with one optical interface single strand (SC/APC) going to the ISP, and 1000BaseT to my own router.
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 6:51 PM Eric Dugas <edugas () unknowndevice ca> wrote:
> I don't have any particular insights for Telus, but there is a huge thread about bypassing Bell ONTs on DSLReports: 
> https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32230041-Internet-Bypassing-the-HH3K-up-to-2-5Gbps-using-a-BCM57810S-NIC
> Cheers,
> Eric
> On Oct 13 2020, at 9:38 pm, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com> wrote:
> With the growth of gigabit class single fiber GPON last mile services, I imagine a number of people reading the list 
> must have subscribed to such by now.
>
> Something that I have observed, and shared observations with a number of colleagues, is that very often a person who 
> works for ($someAS) lives in a location where you are effectively singlehomed to ($someotherAS). Maybe you bought 
> your house before you got a job with your current employer, or maybe the network you work for doesn't do residential 
> last mile service at all. Perhaps you work remotely for a regional sized entity that's a long distance away from 
> where you live.
>
> Therefore necessitating a choice of service from whatever facilities based consumer-facing ISP happens to service 
> your home.
>
> For example, in Seattle, a number of people discovered that they could keep the Centurylink GPON ONT, and remove the 
> centurylink-provided router/modem combo device. Provided that they were able to configure their own router (small 
> vyatta, pfsense box, mikrotik, whatever) to speak a certain VLAN tag on its WAN interface and be a normal PPPoE / 
> DHCP client.
>
> I'm sure there are a lot of people who prefer to run their own home router and wifi devices, and not rely upon a 
> ($big_residential_isp) provided all-in-one router/nat/wifi box with opaque configuration parameters, or no ability to 
> change configuration at all.
>
> Any insights as to what the configuration of the Telus AS852 GPON network looks would be helpful. Or other 
> observations in general on technically-oriented persons who are doing similar with other ILECs.