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Re: IPv4 Mismanagement


From: Ryan Wilkins <ryan () deadfrog net>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 15:38:14 -0400

I have the same thing with a service that was disconnected a couple years ago.  Four IP blocks of /24 size are still 
swipped to us and we’re announcing them.  I don’t put any customers on them and just use them for temporary things for 
fear that some day someone will want them back.

On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Matt Brennan <brennanma () gmail com> wrote:


A service I disconnected more than 2 years ago still has a /24 of their space SWIPED to me. Their NOC closed the 
ticket I opened to remove. Unknown if it's actually in use for another customer. 

I also had a conversation last week with another ISP (we were renegotiating our contract) about this. The order form 
they sent me had multiple /28's we had "given back" years ago still listed. Turns out they're still being routed to 
us as well. 

I would bet it happens all over the place. 

-Matt

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:00 PM Matt Hoppes <mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net <mailto:mattlists () 
rivervalleyinternet net>> wrote:
I'm sitting here in the office on a Friday performing some IP 
maintenance and I see that one of our upstreams is still filtering an IP 
range we haven't used in years.   I dig into it a bit more and it turns 
out a major carrier still has them SWIPed to us.

This got me curious and I dug more into IPs from back in our early days 
and discovered there are two Tier-1 carriers we no longer do business 
with that still have large blocks of their own IPs SWIPED and allocated 
to us.

This is really confusing and concerning.   I know it's not the 
end-all-be-all, but I wonder how much IPv4 exhaustion is being caused by 
this type of IPv4 mis-management, where IPs are still shown as 
"allocated" to a customer who hasn't used them in years.

I've seen this behavior from Frontier and CenturyLink to name just a few.

Any thoughts on this?


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