Re: FCC FUSF charges clarification

[TJ Trout <tj () pcguys us>]

You shouldn't be getting USF recovery charges if you aren't utilizing
interstate services from said carrier, although all carriers will try to
collect these recovery charges even though a fraction of them actually pay
this forward into USF fund! IP Transit is exempt per ITNA/ITFA as well as
any waves/private lines etc so long as they aren't interstate, even then it
can be exempt (i think) as long as it carries IP traffic.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 2:35 PM Nuno Vieira via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

> re.
>
> actually it is more than 20%... (i miscalculated stuff)
>
> On the IPT part is 6%; on the waveleght part is 48,2%.
>
> anoyone out there that can point some light on this ?
>
> Or all the other carriers are wrong ? :)
>
> On Wed, 2020-10-14 at 22:14 +0100, Nuno Vieira via NANOG wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Need some help/insight from you guys on this:
> >
> > Company A is an incorporated in Europe, where it main business is,
> > however it has some pops within USA.
> >
> > Company A uses services from several companies within USA. (carrier
> > H,
> > C, Z, G, L, etc..)  all in the United States to remotelly connect his
> > stuff.
> >
> > All companies charge company A the agreed fees, except company Z.
> >
> > Company A has two services with company Z.
> >
> > One is IP Transit (in SFO, CA)
> > Other is a Metro Wavelenght (also in SFO, CA)
> >
> > Company Z charges company A on top of agreed services:
> >
> > for IP Transit (other charges representing roughly 6%)
> >
> > for the wavelenght (a lot of charges, such as the ones described
> > below)
> >
> > - FCC Regulatory Fee (wireline)
> > - Fed Universal Service Fund
> > - CA High Cost Fund A
> > - CA Teleconnect Fund
> > - CA TRS
> > - CASF
> > - Universal Lifeline Telephone Service Charge
> > - Utility Users Tax
> >
> > nevertheless company A DOES NOT have any "Telephone" services
> > or whatsoever in the USA.
> >
> > At the end of the day what was meant to be a fixed bill is in fact a
> > 20% higher one...
> >
> > So... my question IS:   Is an European company (or whatsoever foreign
> > wholesale company) WITHOUT ANY customers in USA liable to pay those
> > taxes to the carrier ?
> >
> > Thanks for all you help.
> >
> > /Nuno