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Re: Sunday traffic curiosity


From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 00:38:45 +0200



On 22/Mar/20 23:36, Valdis Kl ē tnieks wrote:

It failed to scale for some of the exact same reasons QoS failed to scale -
what works inside one administrative domain doesn't work once it crosses domain
boundaries.

This, for me, is one of the biggest reasons I feel inter-AS Multicast
does not work. Can you imagine trying to troubleshoot issues between two
or more separate networks?

At $previous_job, we carried and delivered IPTV streams from a head-end
that was under the domain of the broadcasting company. Co-ordination of
feed ingestion, e.t.c. got too complicated that we ended up agreeing to
take full management of the CE router. That isn't something you can
always expect; it worked for us because this was the first time it was
being done in the country.



Plus, there's a lot more state to keep - if you think spanning tree gets ugly
if the tree gets too big, think about what happens when the multicast covers
3,000 people in 117 ASN's, with people from multiple ASN's joining and leaving
every few seconds.

We ran NG-MVPN which created plenty of RSVP-TE state in the core.

The next move to was migrate to mLDP just to simplify state management.
I'm not sure if the company ever did, as I had to leave.

Mark.

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