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Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 13:58:39 -0700



On Mar 16, 2020, at 13:15 , Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu () gmail com> wrote:



Le 16/03/2020 à 20:08, Owen DeLong a écrit :


On Mar 16, 2020, at 07:04 , Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu () gmail com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu () gmail 
com>> wrote:


Le 16/03/2020 à 14:58, Mark Tinka a écrit :

On 15/Mar/20 00:12, Eric M. Carroll wrote:


There is good news here. The infrastructure has never been better
positioned to support this kind of mass event. We can shop from home,
work from home, get groceries from home, order drugs, get
entertainment, all via IP. The ISP community needs to be ready to
respond to the magnitude of what is happening.
If the Internet was as large in 2003 when SARS hit as it is now in 2020
under the Coronavirus, I think we'd have seen the same issues back then.

Nowadays, information gets around a lot faster and with more fuss and
fanfare than before. On average, by the time you see a shared video clip
on WhatsApp, you'll be receiving it from 100 other contacts inside of a
30 minutes.

As readier as the Internet is today, part of the mega spread of the
fallout from the Coronavirus is because information is not only
traveling way faster, a lot of it is also not (necessarily) verified or
moderated before being shared with is consumers.


There is no other way to do that information filterning now. Nobody has any authority of knowing better than others.

This simply isn’t true…

Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology.

Doctors are many.  Some speak urgent: they say stay home.

Others say this, and yet others say that.



Doctors are many. Epidemiologists are fewer. Virtually all of the epidemiologists and specialists in infectious disease 
are
saying the same thing… Urget — stay home — flatten the curve.

The information on the CDC and WHO websites remains the primary source of trustworthy information. It may be
incomplete, but if someone is contradicting something there, they’re very likely to be wrong.

Stay home.



Yes.


OTOH, anyone selling “survive COVID” or “cure COVID” etc. is completely untrustworthy and guaranteed to be lying to
you in order to sell a product. Despicable, but common place.

Yes.




There’s no authoritative way to get false information off the internet, so we have to combat it as best we can with 
good
information and education. Even in my own household, this is a constant battle as my GF continues to bring home
odd superstitious rumors and embellishments from a variety of inaccurate sources and I constantly have to correct her
perspective.

For up to date local information, check with the local public health authority in your jurisdiction.

I tell you I did.  There is 0 info from official channels telling where precisely are the cases.  I had to google the 
cityname and the virus word.

The official information here says number of cases, and names the REgions most affected (large regions).  Thats it.

Please tell me about your city: do you know the numbers in your city?  How did you get the info?



What do you care where the already diagnosed cases are… But the time a location has already diagnosed cases that can be 
reported,
there are likely 100s if not 1000s of other cases going unnoticed in the area. Stay home now, regardless of where you 
are.

In the US, that will usually
be your county public health agency. In some cases, individual municipalities also have public health departments.

Please try it and tell me if it works.


Has worked very well for me  in Santa Clara County so far.



At the very least adhere to their orders and recommendations.

YEs I do.  It says this: tomorrow noon all stay  indoors, out only for pharmacy, alimentaiton or criticial job.  
Thats it.

What more do you want? That’s the best advice that exists today.

They also use other words that I will not type here.


lol

Owen


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