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RE: "Hacking" these days - purpose?


From: Ryland Kremeier <rkremeier () barryelectric com>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:58:42 +0000

I think you’re coming at it the wrong way. It’s not going to be one, or a couple of dudes behind a screen like in the 
movies. It’s ran autonomously for as long as possible. Gathering information on easily accessible devices and the like. 
Any information gathered is information that can be sold, or used otherwise depending on what they’re grabbing.

-- Ryland

From: Peter E.Fry<mailto:pfry () tailbone net>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 8:55 AM
To: nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>
Subject: "Hacking" these days - purpose?


Simple question: What's the purpose of obtaining illicit access to
random devices on the Internet these days, considering that a large
majority of attacks are now launched from cheap, readily available and
poorly managed/overseen "cloud" services?  Finding anything worthwhile
to steal on random machines on the Internet seems unlikely, as does
obtaining access superior (in e.g. location, bandwidth, anonymity,
etc.) to the service from which the attack was launched.


I was thinking about this the other day as I was poking at my
firewall, and hopped onto the archives (here and elsewhere) to see if
I could find any discussion.  I found a few mentions (e.g. "Microsoft
is hacking my Asterisk???"), but I didn't catch any mention of
purpose.  Am I missing something obvious (either a purpose or a
discussion of such)?  Have I lost my mind entirely?  (Can't hurt to
check, as I'd likely be the last to know.)


Peter E. Fry



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