Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?

[JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

If you have to have connectivity to them, you could always just instruct them not to announce your routes beyond their 
AS; paid peering, and announce through more reliable ASs such as 2914 and 1299. Many people do this. Otherwise, cut 
ties with them and save yourself the headaches. 


> On Aug 30, 2020, at 12:09, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com> wrote:
>
> 
> An outage is what it is. I am not worried about outages. We have multiple transits to deal with that.
>
> It is the keep announcing prefixes after withdrawal from peers and customers that is the huge problem here. That is 
> killing all the effort and money I put into having redundancy. It is sabotage of my network after I cut the ties. I 
> do not want to be a customer at an outlet who has a system that will do that. Luckily we do not currently have a 
> contract and now they will have to convince me it is safe for me to make a contract with them. If that is impossible 
> I guess I won't be getting a contract with them.
>
> But I disagree in that it would be impossible. They need to make a good report telling exactly what went wrong and 
> how they changed the design, so something like this can not happen again. The basic design of BGP is such that this 
> should not happen easily if at all. They did something unwise. Did they make a route reflector based on a database or 
> something?
>
> Regards,
>
> Baldur
>
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 5:13 PM Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com> wrote:
> > Exactly. And asking that they somehow prove this won't happen again is impossible.
> >
> > - Mike Bolitho
> >
> > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 8:10 AM Drew Weaver <drew.weaver () thenap com> wrote:
> > > I’m not defending them but I am sure it isn’t intentional.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+drew.weaver=thenap.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Baldur Norddahl
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 9:28 AM
> > > To: nanog () nanog org
> > > Subject: Re: Centurylink having a bad morning?
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > How is that acceptable behaviour? I shall remember never to make a contract with these guys until they can prove 
> > > that they won't advertise my prefixes after I pull them. Under any circumstances. 
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > søn. 30. aug. 2020 15.14 skrev Joseph Jenkins <joe () breathe-underwater com>:
> > >
> > > Finally got through on their support line and spoke to level1. The only thing the tech could say was it was an 
> > > issue with BGP route reflectors and it started about 3am(pacific). They were still trying to isolate the issue. 
> > > I've tried failing over my circuits and no go, the traffic just dies as L3 won't stop advertising my routes.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 5:21 AM Drew Weaver via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Woke up this morning to a bunch of reports of issues with connectivity had to shut down some Level3/CTL connections 
> > > to get it to return to normal.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > As of right now their support portal won’t load: https://www.centurylink.com/business/login/
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Just wondering what others are seeing.
> > >
> > >