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Re: Abuse Desks


From: Bottiger <bottiger10 () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:20:30 -0700

It is rather easy to block SSH cracking attempts from your own side. Rarely
do they put any significant load on your network or computer.

I would sympathize with this except for the fact that abuse desks won't
even respond to DDoS attacks, something that can't be fixed on your own end
without spending a lot of money.

That needs to be fixed first before worrying about password cracking.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:58 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

I noticed over the weekend that a Fail2Ban instance's complain function
wasn't working. I fixed it. I've noticed a few things:

1) Abusix likes to return RIR abuse contact information. The vast majority
are LACNIC, but it also has kicked back a couple for APNIC and ARIN. When I
look up the compromised IP address in Abusix via the CLI, the APNIC and
ARIN ones return both ISP contact information and RIR information. When I
look them up on the RIR's whois, it just shows the ISP abuse information.
Weird, but so rare it's probably just an anomaly. However, almost
everything I see in LACNIC's region is returned with only the LACNIC abuse
information when the ones I've checked on LACNIC's whois list valid abuse
information for that prefix. Can anyone confirm they've seen similar
behavior out of Abusix? I reached out to them, but haven't heard back.
2) Digital Ocean hits my radar far more than any other entity.
3) Azure shows up a lot less than GCP or AWS, which are about similar to
each other.
4) Around 5% respond saying it's been addressed (or why it's not in the
event of security researchers) within a couple hours. The rest I don't
know. I've had a mix of small and large entities in that response.
5) HostGator seems to have an autoresponder (due to a 1 minute response)
that just indicates that you sent nothing actionable, despite the report
including the relevant log file entries.
6) Charter seems to have someone actually looking at it as it took them 16
- 17 hours to respond, but they say they don't have enough information to
act on, requesting relevant log file entries...  which were provided in the
initial report and are even included in their response. They request
relevant log file entries with the date, time, timezone, etc. all in the
body in plain text, which was delivered.
7) The LACNIC region has about 1/3 of my reports.



Do these mirror others' observations with security issues and how abuse
desks respond?



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com


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