Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond

[Dmitry Sherman <dmitry () interhost net>]

They are not that cheap...

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Dmitry Sherman
Interhost Networks
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On 22 Sep 2019, at 16:49, Tim Burke <tb () tburke us<mailto:tb () tburke us>> wrote:

Ethical business practices are quite important to me... I don't care how their pricing is, if every one of their sales 
reps is on-par with a used car salesman, I want nothing to do with them. No other carrier I deal with acts in this 
fashion.

If you're OK with cheap bandwidth sold by car sales rejects, that's fine... but I am most certainly not interested.

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019, at 8:02 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
It may be unethical to pull emails from ARIN listings but their sales guys have a job to do and quotas to meet.

Don't get mad at the sales reps, maybe think a little higher up the food chain. Each rep I've had has been very fair 
and respectful. If I don't need anything new, I tell them to followup with me in 6 months and they do. At most they 
send me a 2 sentence email to see if I need anything. That's something a good rep should do to make sure they're always 
in the back of your mind and easy to reach.

Also, just because you don't like their sales process doesn't mean their network is bad. We've had them for 3 years and 
never had a single outage. The very few times we did call them for routing questions, they picked up the phone 
immediately and knew what to do.

That already makes them better than some companies that cost 5 times as much. At cogent pricing, you should receive the 
worst support but it's damn good right along with HE support. Both are the most affordable transit providers but offer 
the best support. The more expensive guys should get their crap together.

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 7:54 AM Tim Burke <tb () tburke us<mailto:tb () tburke us>> wrote:

That is just The Cogent Way™, unfortunately. I just had (yet another) Cogent rep spam me using an email address that is 
_only_ used as an ARIN contact, trying to sell me bandwidth. When I called him out on it, with compliance () arin 
net<mailto:compliance () arin net> CCed, he backpedaled and claimed to obtain my information from Google.

Gotta love these awful bottom feeding companies.

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Dmitry Sherman wrote:
Cogent are spamming seriously, they call me from different phone number in Frankfurt and USA in holidays or at night.

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Dmitry Sherman
Interhost Networks Ltd
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On 17/09/2019, 3:25, "NANOG on behalf of Michel Py" <nanog-bounces () nanog org<mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org> on 
behalf of michel.py () tsisemi com<mailto:michel.py () tsisemi com>> wrote:

    > If you don’t like Cogent - explain.

    Besides the peering issues, they can't stop spamming. If after 20 attempts on the phone you have not picked up, 
they start to send email.
    They abuse whois. They are one of the primary reasons few people put their real phone number in whois.

    And I have never talked to that level of incompetence. Tell their sales droids that you want a link over RFC 1149, 
or that you need BGT (instead of BGP), they will tell you no problem.
    Don't even try to ask anything about communities or RPKI; they can't tell the difference between a router and a 
connected coffee pot. If you must deal with them, record everything.

    If someone has a cheap Asterisk trick so when the caller ID says COGENT it goes directly to Lenny I'll take it.

    Michel

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