Re: Elad Cohen (was: Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond)

[Ben Cannon <ben () 6by7 net>]

With the difficulty of getting IPs off SPAM RBLs being what they are, I’m not sure I like the bone-chilling idea of 
accepting null-routing entire ranges as standard practice.

Same reasons, no central repository, no easy/quick/objective/cheap way to remove an illegitimate entry - and then the 
real problem, there’s just 6 billion of them now and 
they’re all over the place and you’re listed in one of them probably no matter who you are.

-Ben.

-Ben Cannon
CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
ben () 6by7 net <mailto:ben () 6by7 net>




> On Sep 18, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:
>
> I tried to ask this earlier, I think, but...
>
> "who cares about the sale?"
>
> I ask this because I think getting wrapped around that axle is the
> wrong place to spend resources.
> If the outcome of 'someone' controlling IP space is that there is
> abusive activity coming from that space and either no actions are
> taken to correct that, OR the problem is endemic and there is no
> change over time, then the action the community should take is not
> accepting routes to these prefixes. Once everyone (or enough
> everyones) stop accepting packets/paths the address space isn't
> important anymore.
>
> If the 'rightful owners' of the space need/want it back there's clear
> redress for them via their RIR and the various networks which are /
> were offering transit to these prefixes.
>
> -chris
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:02 PM Job Snijders <job () instituut net> wrote:
> > It would be good to see some receipts, offered by the selling party.