Re: This DNS over HTTP thing

[Matt Corallo <nanog () as397444 net>]

I’m not sure that google has announced any plans to, but Firefox has announced plans to switch everyone to Cloudflare’s 
DNS.

Hope none of  y’all are running competing CDNs, cause they’re about to get real slow on Firefox.

Matt

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 12:38, Damian Menscher via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
>
> 
> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 12:24 PM Jay R. Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer () nic fr>
> > > To: "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen () massar ch>
> >
> > > > While the 'connection to the recursor' is 'encrypted', the recursor
> > > > is still in clear text... one just moves who can see what you are
> > > > doing with this.
> > >
> > > As with any cryptographic protocol. Same thing with VPNs, SSH and
> > > whatever: the remote end can see what you do. What's your point?
> >
> > I'm still assimilating this, but based on what I've read this half hour,
> > his point is that "*it's none of Alphabet's damn business* where I go that
> > isn't Google".
>
> What's missing from this discussion are some basic facts, like "is Google going to change your DNS settings to 
> 8.8.8.8?"
>
> The opening paragraph of https://blog.chromium.org/2019/09/experimenting-with-same-provider-dns.html reads:
>
> "This experiment will be done in collaboration with DNS providers who already support DoH, with the goal of improving 
> our mutual users’ security and privacy by upgrading them to the DoH version of their current DNS service. With our 
> approach, the DNS service used will not change, only the protocol will. As a result, existing content controls of 
> your current DNS provider, including any existing protections for children, will remain active."
>
> Could someone provide a reference of Google saying they'll change the default nameserver?  Without that, I think all 
> of Jeroen's arguments fall apart?
>
> Damian