RE: all major US carriers received text messages overnight that appear to have been sent around Valentine's Day 2019

["Kain, Becki (.)" <bkain1 () ford com>]

If they just realized a server was down, from 2/14, just now, I’d say they have bigger support issues


From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> On Behalf Of Jared Geiger
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 2:23 PM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: all major US carriers received text messages overnight that appear to have been sent around Valentine's 
Day 2019

What likely happened is that messages were queued on host to go out, SMPP binds go down, queue fills up, host crashes. 
Then someone realizes the host is down and brings it back up and the queue empties when the load is low. Since it 
included many carriers, might have been a message routing server in the middle of their platform.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:52 AM David Hubbard <dhubbard () dino hostasaurus com<mailto:dhubbard () dino hostasaurus 
com>> wrote:
Playing devil’s advocate, perhaps they were under emergency court order to not deliver texts for a certain duration, 
market, who knows what, and that order just ended, but some type of non-disclosure / secrecy directive continues to 
exist… may have just had to come up with something to say because their other agreements would not have permitted 
discarding the texts… 😊

David

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+dhubbard=dino.hostasaurus.com () nanog org<mailto:dino.hostasaurus.com () nanog org>> on 
behalf of Mark Stevens <manager () monmouth com<mailto:manager () monmouth com>>
Date: Friday, November 8, 2019 at 1:45 PM
To: "nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>" <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>>
Subject: Re: all major US carriers received text messages overnight that appear to have been sent around Valentine's 
Day 2019

Reading Syniverse's cause of trouble (lame excuse) tells me their data handling processes are poor and seemingly shady 
since I do not buy reason for the trouble.

On 11/8/2019 1:34 PM, Kain, Becki (.) wrote:
Esp on Valentine’s day.  Of all the days that clear communication is important.  I’d be very interested in their 
reasoning for why these messages were not sent and held.

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org><mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org> On Behalf Of Oliver O'Boyle
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 1:31 PM
To: Matt Hoppes <mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net><mailto:mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog () nanog org><mailto:nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: all major US carriers received text messages overnight that appear to have been sent around Valentine's 
Day 2019

We apologize for finally getting around to our job and doing what we were paid to do...

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 1:27 PM Matt Hoppes <mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net<mailto:mattlists () 
rivervalleyinternet net>> wrote:
“During an internal maintenance cycle last night, 168,149 previously undelivered text messages were inadvertently sent 
to multiple mobile operators’ subscribers," Syniverse said in a statement.


how do you inadvertently send messages that were supposed to be sent but worked and sent? Isn’t that the desired 
outcome?

On Nov 8, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Brandon Svec <bsvec () teamonesolutions com<mailto:bsvec () teamonesolutions com>> wrote:
From: 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/11/08/thousands-people-just-got-text-messages-sent-valentines-day/2527660001/

It seems there is a company that has everyone's text messages..

"Some mobile carriers rely on a third-party text platform called Syniverse to relay messages. The vendor said in a 
statement that its IT staff unknowingly caused the texts to be delivered this week."
-Brandon





On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:47 AM Brian J. Murrell <brian () interlinx bc ca<mailto:brian () interlinx bc ca>> wrote:
On Thu, 2019-11-07 at 22:42 +0000, Chris Kimball via NANOG wrote:
> Does anyone have any more information on this?

Yeah, like who (in the private sector -- we all knew the NSA already
are doing this) has access to and is archiving *everyone*s text
messages?  And why?

Cheers,
b.


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