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Re: FCC Hurricane Michael after-action report


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 12:30:40 +1000

Can everyone on this list that is using Gmail please complain to Google as
there is a STUPID default to set font-size:small. It make the text unreadable
on smaller device with already small fonts.  The message I’m replying to
does this.  font-size:small should be verboten in email even for footnotes.

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On 15 May 2019, at 1:38 am, George Metz <george.metz () gmail com> wrote:

There's more to it than this too. I was down there (I have sites I'm responsible for in Panama City Beach) in 
February and I was talking to a bunch of folks in the area as a result. This storm was fairly unusual for the area 
for a number of reasons. One, it normally doesn't hit the panhandle at anywhere near a category 5, and two, it was 
still a high category 3 by the time it hit Georgia. The amount of damage done was immense, is still not cleaned up (I 
drove past multiple buildings that were still piles of rubble, 4 months after the storm), and I was seeing forests 
full of damaged and destroyed trees all the way to I-10.

All in all, the vast majority of Panama City looked much more like 4 months after a tornado rather than a hurricane, 
and all that damage continued all the way into Georgia. Thinking this was just like any other hurricane to hit the 
area is the absolute wrong tack to take - from what I heard there was some discussion of whether it was worth it to 
reopen Tyndall AFB, because the only thing left standing was some WWII era bomb-proof concrete hangars.

On the flip side, improvements in response are a good thing - as long as people aren't beating up on the people who 
did the responding in the first place without cause.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:52 AM Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> wrote:
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:48:02PM -0500, frnkblk () iname com wrote:
One of my takeaways from that article was that burying fiber underground
could likely have avoided many/most of these fiber cuts, though I???m
not familiar enough with the terrain to know how feasible that is.

I suspect that may not be possible in (parts of) Florida.

However, even in places where it's possible, fiber installation is
sometimes miserably executed.  Like my neighborhood.  A couple of
years ago, Verizon decided to finally bring FIOS in.  They put in the
appropriate calls to utility services, who dutifully marked all the
existing power/cable/gas/etc. lines and then their contractors (or
sub-sub-contractors) showed up.

The principle outcome of their efforts quickly became clear, as one
Comcast cable line after another was severed.   Not a handful, not even
dozens: well over a hundred.  They managed to cut mine in three places,
which was truly impressive.  (Thanks for the extended outage, Verizon.)
After this had gone on for a month, Comcast caught on and took the
expedient route of just rolling a truck every morning.  They'd park at
the end of the road and just wait for the service calls that they knew
were coming.  Of course Comcast's lines were not the only victims of
this incompetence and negligence.  Amusingly, sometimes Verizon had to
send its own repair crews for their copper lines.

There's a lot more but let me skip to the end result.  After inflicting
months of outages on everyone, after tearing up lots of lawns, after all
of this, many of the fiber conduits that are allegedly underground: aren't.

---rsk

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Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka () isc org


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