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Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?]
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:31:52 -0400
[Removing the attribution, because many people have made statements like this over the last day - or year. Just selecting this one as a succinct and recent example to illustrate the point.]
This blog post, and your CEO on Twitter today, took every opportunity to say “DAMN THOSE MORONS AT 701!”.Damn those morons at 701, period.
I must be old. All I can think is Kids These Days, and maybe Get Off My BGP, er Lawn. Any company running a large, high complex infrastructure is going to make mistakes. Period. It is not like 701 is causing problems every week, or even ever year. If you think this one incident proves they are ‘morons’, you are only showing you are neither experienced nor mature enough to make that judgement. To be clear, they may well be morons. I no longer know many people architecting and operating 701’s backbone, so I cannot tell you first-hand how smart they are. Maybe they are stupid, but exceptionally lucky. However, the facts at hand do not support your blanket assertion, and making it does not speak well of you. OTOH, I do have first-hand experience with previous CF blog posts, and to say they spin things in their favor is being generous. But then, it’s a blog post, i.e. Marketing. What else would you expect? I know it is anathema to the ethos of the network engineers & architects to work together instead of hurling insults, but it would probably result in a better Internet. And isn’t that what we all (supposedly) want? -- TTFN, patrick
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- Re: CloudFlare issues?, (continued)
- Re: CloudFlare issues? Ross Tajvar (Jun 24)
- Re: CloudFlare issues? Jared Mauch (Jun 24)
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- Re: CloudFlare issues? Jared Mauch (Jun 24)
- Re: CloudFlare issues? Randy Bush (Jun 25)
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- Re: CloudFlare issues? Hank Nussbacher (Jun 25)
- Re: CloudFlare issues? Tom Beecher (Jun 25)
- Re: CloudFlare issues? Katie Holly (Jun 25)
- Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?] Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 25)
- Re: Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?] Matthew Walster (Jun 25)
- Re: Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?] Adam Kennedy via NANOG (Jun 25)
- Re: Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?] Mark Tinka (Jun 25)
- Re: Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?] Christopher Morrow (Jun 25)
- Re: Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?] Randy Bush (Jun 25)
- Re: Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?] Sean Donelan (Jun 25)
- Re: Are network operators morons? [was: CloudFlare issues?] Randy Bush (Jun 25)
- Re: CloudFlare issues? Stephen Satchell (Jun 25)
- Re: CloudFlare issues? Aftab Siddiqui (Jun 25)
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