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Re: Antennas in the data center


From: Robert Webb <rwfireguru () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:51:59 -0400

The is booster to only get an LTE signal from Verizon into the data center..

For our purpose of needing it, we have a cisco router with LTE for our
system as a back management access in case of loss to the system by normal
means.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM Andrew Latham <lathama () gmail com> wrote:

I agree with Miles that this is more of an infiltration and or
ex-filtration of data issue. Can you firewall at the booster? Out of Band
management is tricky when LTE bandwidth is so high that one could export
large quantities of data.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:28 AM Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
wrote:

It's not quite clear what you mean by "NIST controls" - NIST publishes
standards & guidelines, they don't regulate.

Now, if you're running a Federal data center, or one for a government
contractor - perhaps you're referring to "NIST Compliance" under FISMA (the
Federal Information Security Management Act) - which involves compliance
with a bunch of FIPS (Federal Information Processing Standards).  See
https://csrc.nist.gov/topics/laws-and-regulations/laws/fisma &
https://digitalguardian.com/blog/what-nist-compliance for some
background.

Now if I had to guess - I expect that there are some security standards
that would prohibit placing an antenna inside a data center handling any
kind of sensitive or classified data.

If you have any systems, in the data center, that require security
certification & accreditation, I expect your accreditation authority would
be the person to talk to.  Or your information security officer.
On 7/18/19 9:30 AM, Robert Webb wrote:

So I have a situation where I am trying to get LTE to an out of band
router and there is no signal available in the data center. There was a
booster setup purchased and I have a manager telling me that standards,
industry and not local, prohibit the installation.

He has yet to produce any documented industry standard so I thought I
would reach out to see if anyone here has heard of this.

We fall under NIST controls and I haven't found anything there and have
also looked at TIA and not found anything.

Thanks...

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:09 AM Matt Harris <matt () netfire net> wrote:

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:01 AM Robert Webb <rwfireguru () gmail com>
wrote:

Anyone out there deal with data center design?

Looking for any info available which provides guidelines on putting
antennas, like LTE booster, in the data center.


Not quite sure what you're looking for here Robert. As far as placing
something like an LTE booster in a data center, you'd just use common sense
(place it in the best possible place from a connectivity standpoint). Is
this something you're considering in order to provide service to folks who
run LTE backup connections on their gear (like serial concentrators)?
Wireless/RF site surveys and how to do them effectively are pretty
well-documented at this point.

Or are you asking about roof access/deploying antennas on a rooftop
safely/securely?

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