Re: Contact for BART

[Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>]

> On Jan 20, 2019, at 01:52 , Scott Christopher <sc () ottie org> wrote:
>
> No :)

Huh?

> BART is Bay Area Rapid Transit, a public transportation system with its own bureaucracy and publicly elected board.
>
> Caltrans is a separate State bureaucracy, though it has a big office in the city of Oakland near BART Headquarters.

I’m quite aware of this. If you’ll note, the thing I was replying to said he was ALSO looking for a good contact within 
CALDOT.

I was pointing out that CALDOT doesn’t call itself CALDOT, but refers to itself as CalTrans.

> And then there is Caltrain which is the commuter rail that runs down the peninsula. That organization has its own 
> bureaucracy and board, too.

Sure, but I’m not sure how that suddenly became relevant to the conversation.

> Lesson to be learned: don't use obscure acronyms unknown outside a small geographical region :)

Well, I think calling any of the above terms “obscure” is a bit of a stretch. I would agree that they are not widely 
known outside of California and that the level of common knowledge may decrease with distance from the immediate SF Bay 
Area. However, referring to them as obscure when I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who has ever spent more 
than 2 weeks i the bay area that isn’t familiar with them seems a bit of an exaggeration.

Owen

> Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> > You’ll have more luck finding California Dept. of Transportation if you call them “CalTrans” which is what they call 
> > themselves.
> >
> > Owen
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 18, 2019, at 17:27 , Ben Cannon <ben () 6by7 net <mailto:ben () 6by7 net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > HAH. Apologies for copying the list.  But I think we all needed a good Friday laugh.   
> > >
> > > Making it relevant again, also looking for a good contact within CALDOT (California Dept of Transportation) and the 
> > > joint bridge authority for the Bay Bridge in San Francisco.
> > >
> > > Have a good weekend all :)
> > >
> > > -Ben Cannon
> > >
> > > > On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:25 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us <mailto:bill () herrin us>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 5:18 PM Ben Cannon <ben () 6by7 net <mailto:ben () 6by7 net>> wrote:
> > > > > I’m speaking of the san francisco based Bay Area Rapid Transit department about Rights Of Way for fiber…
> > > >
> > > > Now you've said enough that if the person you're looking for is here he'll have some idea you mean him.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > What are you talking about?
> > > >
> > > > Inappropriate abbreviation. I mean sure, why not a NANOG Friday Fight Club, but why would you want to get in a ROW 
> > > > (noisy argument) with BART Simpson?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bill Herrin
> > > >
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> S.C.