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Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request]
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:52:23 -0800
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 6:14 PM Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan <giri () dombox org> wrote:
While we're at it, let's deprecate IPv4 now that IPv6 is fully deployedCome on Mr. Herrin.
Hi Viruthagiri, If you don't want to face the hyperbole then don't stick your head in the sand. Unless you grossly underestimate the cost of operations change, you propose to make the spam problem worse for some nontrivial period of time. In exchange, you offer an explanation for how a new port will succeed where starttls fails that frankly doesn't hold water. Any scenario where starttls is disrupted is at least as vulnerable to a new tcp port being blocked. Your other idea of signaling via DNS that a man in the middle is present if the target SMTP server fails to support encryption could have merit. I think the specific mechanism (overloading the host name) is unwise but I'd be interested to see the concept developed further. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
Current thread:
- SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Michael Thomas (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Doug Royer (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] William Herrin (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] William Herrin (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] William Herrin (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Brandon Martin (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] valdis . kletnieks (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] valdis . kletnieks (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Töma Gavrichenkov (Jan 12)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 12)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan (Jan 11)
- Re: SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal [Feedback Request] Robert Blayzor (Jan 14)