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Re: IPv6 and forensic requests


From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:06:35 +0100

Well, if it is mobile, then definitively you should use /64 for every PDP context, and clearly is NAT64.

In this case, you don't need to take care about the CLAT part, just look at the /64 prefix for the logging.

Make sure to talk about stateful NAT64 ... otherwise you create lot of confusion.

You've some deployment hints at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment/

Also, google for some of my IPv6-only tutorials (last RIPE meeting, APNIC meeting, etc., there are even videos of them).

Regards,
Jordi
 
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> en nombre de Max Tulyev <maxtul () netassist ua>
Fecha: domingo, 10 de febrero de 2019, 16:30
CC: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Asunto: Re: IPv6 and forensic requests

    Hello Jordi,
    
    thank you, I will take a look on Jool!
    
    Exactly CLAT was the issue.
    
    First, I thought to provide a /128 to every mobile, and then do a static 
    6to4 to certain public IPv4. But it seems mobile need a /64, and it uses 
    a lot of random IPv6 inside assigned /64, several addresses together at 
    each time, CLAT uses the most of it (on Android). So direct translation 
    6->public4 is impossible.
    
    10.02.19 15:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ пише:
    > Do you really mean 6to4 or NAT64? Totally different things ...
    > 
    > If that's the case, I will suggest you go for Jool instead of Tayga.
    > 
    > Also, if you want the customers are able to use old IPv4 apps and devices, NAT64 is not sufficient, you need also 
CLAT at the customer premises (so they can run 464XLAT).
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
    >   
    >   
    > 
    > -----Mensaje original-----
    > De: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> en nombre de Max Tulyev <maxtul () netassist ua>
    > Fecha: domingo, 10 de febrero de 2019, 14:26
    > Para: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
    > Asunto: IPv6 and forensic requests
    > 
    >      Hi All,
    >      
    >      we are implementing IPv6 only infrastructure.
    >      
    >      For IPv4 access, we using tayga for 6to4 translation and then CGN for NAT.
    >      
    >      There is a number of ways for Linux based NAT to store information for
    >      future forensic requests (i.e. "who was it cracking that website?").
    >      
    >      But what about 6to4 translators, as tayga? I believe there should be
    >      well-known patches or solutions. The aim is to have what /64 (not even
    >      /128) was translated to what IPv4 at the requested time.
    >      
    >      Is there any?
    >      
    > 
    > 
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