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Re: Wikipedia drops support for old Android smartphones; mandates TLSv1.2 to read


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 07:37:58 -0600 (CST)

Silicon Valley is typically out of touch with reality. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc () gmail com> 
To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 1:34:19 AM 
Subject: Wikipedia drops support for old Android smartphones; mandates TLSv1.2 to read 


Dear all, 

It came to my attention that anyone visiting en.wikipedia.org site from an "old Android smartphone", as Wikipedia puts 
it, will be redirected to https://en.wikipedia.org/sec-warning ( 
http://web.archive.org/web/20191217154700/https://en.wikipedia.org/sec-warning ), which, amongst other things, reads 
the following: 

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: 中文: 维基百科正在使网站更加安全。您正在使用旧的浏览器,这在将来无法连接维基百科。请更新您的设备或联络您的IT管理员。以下提供更长,更具技术性的更新(仅英语)。 
: 
: We are removing support for insecure TLS protocol versions, specifically TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1, which your browser 
software relies on to connect to our sites. This is usually caused by using some ancient browser or user agents like 
old Android smartphones. Also it could be interference from corporate or personal "Web Security" software which 
actually downgrades connection security. 
: You must upgrade your browser or otherwise fix this issue to access our sites. This message will remain until Jan 1, 
2020. After that date, your browser will not be able to establish a connection to our servers at all. 
: See also the HTTPS Browser Recommendations page on Wikitech for more-detailed information. 

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This is yet another assault on the less fortunate folk for absolutely no valid technical reason. Yet another assault on 
the free flow of information. 

Everyone should be able to access an encyclopaedia without any such restrictions; wasn't that the whole original 
premise behind Wikipedia in the first place? Why are they now precluding valid users from having access? What happened 
with the idea of following Postel's law? 
http://web.archive.org/web/20191212212040/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle 

If you have an old iPad device lying around, why should you be precluded from having access to an encyclopaedia? A 
Google search reveals that there's already iOS users receiving these messages, too. (BTW, Google Search itself still 
works fine over plain HTTP — FYI — as does Bing and Baidu, but not Yandex.) 

If anyone is aware of a tracking-free TLS-free mirror, LMK. I cannot link to Wikipedia in good conscience anymore 
knowing that they block folks left and right now. 

C. 

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