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Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)


From: "John R. Levine" <johnl () iecc com>
Date: 4 Dec 2019 16:37:29 -0500

Though I agree that Gmail spam filtering is top grade, or close to be so,
it still sends to spam a statistically significant number of emails from
IETF and ICANN mailing lists I'm subscribed to.  It depends as well on
which account I should receive those emails.

Yes, that's mostly the DMARC problem.  We're painfully familiar with it.

While I understand and totally accept that there might be issues with the
respective senders' configuration; with mailing lists at least, spam
filtering is more of a duty of the mailing list admins.  ...

One day I asked a guy at Google why they don't just whitelist incoming mailing list mail, since they clearly have a good idea where the list hosts are. He said that legit lists send spam (actual ugly spam, not filter errors) all the time, either because a subscriber's account is compromised or the list itself is compromised. Accurate filtering is remarkably complicated.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl () taugh com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly


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