Re: Thursday: Internet outage eastern Europe Iran and Turkey

[Ross Tajvar <ross () tajvar io>]

I'm interested in these events. It might be worth making a separate list
for them?

On Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 6:24 PM Scott Weeks <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote:

> --- sean () donelan com wrote:
> From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
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> I hadn't seen messages about this Internet outage affecting multiple
> countries (Eastern Europe, Turkey and Iran) from Thursday.
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> Multiple fiber cuts affecting major parts of sub-continents don't happen
> as much any more. Yes, I still remember the day of FIVE (5) simultaneous,
> trans-continental fiber cuts in the USA.  I was busy :-)
>
> I don't know if Internet route diversity has improved... or people aren't
> sending me messages about them anymore.
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> I have become quite interested in this lately.  I don't send them
> to the list as no one seemed interested when I sent them before.
> For example, India as been turning off the internet like they turn
> the lights:
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> https://internetshutdowns.in/
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> Kashmir has been without internet for over 100 days:
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> https://guardian.ng/news/world/restive-kashmir-marks-100-days-since-india-stripped-autonomy/
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> Just think how you'd do anything without internet for 100+ days!
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> Usually after a country as 3 or 4 major egress points, large-scale
> unintentional internet outages are relatively rare. Countries with only
> 1 or 2 egress points still have lots of problems.
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> I'm not so sure 3-4 is a large enough number.  Many countries are
> copying China in information repression (among other things) which
> includes building in the ability to turn off internet access
> (internationally as well as intranationally) as their network is
> built out. Funny that one thing something as large as a country
> is afraid of is normal folks talking to each other freely.  They
> really don't like the end-to-end principle. :)
>
> scott
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> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50851420
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> Severed fibre optic cables disrupted internet access in parts of eastern
> Europe, Iran and Turkey on Thursday.
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> The issue, which lasted for about two hours, was caused by multiple fibre
> cables being physically cut at the same time, a highly unusual thing to
> happen.
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