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Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet


From: Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net>
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 11:31:59 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Anne,

I would argue that if you're not in the EU and have no presence there, you are safe from GDPR. No matter how much they 
EUSSR wants it, they cannot enforce their laws in other jurisdictions. What would happen if Russia would try to enforce 
their laws in the U.S.? Same thing.

GDPR is the most ridiculous piece of legislation I've ever read, and a clear indication of where the EUSSR is headed 
to. A bloated business unfriendly socialist continent.

Thanks,

Sabri Berisha, Network Engineer
CEO/President, Cluecentral Ventures Inc
Volunteer, Barrett Elementary School
Author: www.null.nl
Network Consultant
M.Sc, MBA, JNCIE-M/SP #261, JNCIP-M/SP #381, JNCIS-ER, JNCIS-ENT, JNCSP-SP, ECE-IPN #2
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----- On Aug 5, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. amitchell () isipp com wrote:

On Aug 5, 2019, at 11:46 AM, bzs () theworld com wrote:

My first suggestion would be to include an indemnification clause in
your contracts which includes liability for content, if you don't
already have it (probably most do.)

And a clause which indicates you (need lawyering for this) will seek
expenses including but not limited to legal, judgements, reputational
recovery (e.g., cost of producing press releases), etc, incurred by
actions taken by customer.

These are all excellent suggestions - and while we're on the subject of that
sort of thing, *everyone* should have warrantees of GDPR compliance in any of
their third-party contracts in which data can be touched, and *also*
indemnification clauses in those same contracts if you are held responsible
because those third-parties were breached, etc., and found to *not* be in
compliance with GDPR (for which GDPR specifically provides - i.e. GDPR can go
through the third-party contract and hold *you* liable).  This is one of the
ways that GDPR can seep in to get you even if you think you're safe because
you're not in the EU.

Anne

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Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law
CEO/President, Institute for Social Internet Public Policy
Dean of Cybersecurity & Cyberlaw, Lincoln Law School of San Jose
Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law)
Legislative Consultant
GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant
Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange
Board of Directors, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop
Legal Counsel: The CyberGreen Institute
Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)
Member: California Bar Association


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