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Re: Ownership of Routers on Both Ends of Transnational Links


From: Ross Tajvar <ross () tajvar io>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 16:50:11 -0400

I think it's clear that the IPs belong to Telia, but I understood James's
point to be that the router using the IP in question may belong to China
Unicom. (I agree with that, I was not thinking clearly this morning.) As
this is an interconnect link, one side must belong to Telia and the other
to China Unicom. The question, then, is which side are we looking at? Well,
first I want to know how big the subnet is. I assume either /30 or /31. So,
I do a reverse DNS lookup on all the IPs in the surrounding /30 block:
62.115.170.56 - sjo-b21-link.telia.net
62.115.170.57 - chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net
62.115.170.58 - las-b24-link.telia.net
62.115.170.59 - chinaunicom-ic-341499-las-b24.c.telia.net
That looks like two /31s. Only one IP in each has the name of China Unicom
in it, so that one is probably in use by China Unicom, and the other is
probably in use by Telia.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 3:50 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
wrote:

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:59 AM James Jun <james.jun () towardex com> wrote:

More likely, thease routers are China Unicom's routers in their US POP,
not managed by VZ/Telia.
The /30s in this case are unmanaged IP transit hand-offs, coming in as
Nx10G or 100G.  When your
IP transit provider assigns the /30, your router looks like it belongs
to your upstream, common
mistake when interpreting traceroutes[1].


$ nslookup 62.115.170.56
56.170.115.62.in-addr.arpa name = sjo-b21-link.telia.net.

if you model (as james says) each interconnect as a /30 or /31 ...
look for the adjacent ip and see the PTR for that ip.
(the above is your first link example's peer ip)

[1]: see Page 22 on
https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/presentations/Sunday/RAS_Traceroute_N47_Sun.pdf

James


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