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Re: Puerto Rico Internet Exchange


From: Darin Steffl <darin.steffl () mnwifi com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:55:54 -0500

What is the average latency from the mainland to PR? If it's under 10ms,
there's probably not a huge push for a local IX.

But to compare to our IX in Minnesota, we are within 8ms of Chicago and we
certainly didn't need one here but a group of guys got together some
donations and donated rack space, power, etc. And now we have a very busy
IX with most of the big players on it. I think we push almost 211 gbps at
peak.

So our model was a "build it and they will come" and it worked great. It's
very popular and many content providers and ISP's are peered here including
us.

Our exchange has since started charging port fees but it was free to join
for the longest time.

http://micemn.net

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 8:57 AM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:

Mike,

But why would you want, as a content provider, to have your content hosted
on the island? Backhauling it over fiber is no big deal across the short
distances involved. As far as I can tell, PR has a glut of ocean floor
fiber capacity, just installed a couple years ago. We're not talking stock
market trades here, where milliseconds matter. We're talking Netflix movie
reruns, which could be easily delivered with seconds of latency.

Those who hold to the "if you build it they will come" business model
forget that that model was a fantasy in a movie.

A movie currently being streamed to PR without difficulty :-)

-mel via cell

On Sep 14, 2018, at 6:14 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

Agreed. Very chicken or the egg. Any recently formed IX is largely a
conduit for big content to connect to local eyeballs. As some critical mass
of eyeballs is achieved, local content is interested as are large networks
like Hurricane Electric.

In the case of PR, if there are no local content providers, an IX provides
an avenue for one to form to connect to other operators on the island,
avoiding underwater cables to the mainland. If I were a company in PR, I'd
want my web site and other services hosted in PR, not Miami or Virginia.



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*From: *"Sander Steffann" <sander () steffann nl>
*To: *"Mel Beckman" <mel () beckman org>
*Cc: *"nanog" <nanog () nanog org>
*Sent: *Friday, September 14, 2018 8:08:58 AM
*Subject: *Re: Puerto Rico Internet Exchange

Hi,

In general an IX only makes sense when there are local resources to
exchange. It doesn’t seem like PR has a lot of, if any, content providers
of its own, so most consumer content is coming from offshore anyway.

This can also work the other way: once there is a local IXP, it can open
opportunities for local content providers.

Cheers,
Sander




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