Re: Puerto Rico Internet Exchange

[Mehmet Akcin <mehmet () akcin net>]

Nikos

Thank you for your valuable feedback. We will make this happen! Looking
forward to your further support

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 2:32 PM Nikos Mouat <nikm () mouats com> wrote:

> Hi Mehmet -
>     You mention the SIX so I figured I'd chime in on this thread, despite
> being
> an old one.
>     We were in a similar situation in early 1997 - Seattle was a backwoods
> as far
> as internet infrastructure, with the nearest hub of activity being
> Mae-West /
> PAIX, and not a whole lot else in our neck of the woods. We had tried to
> build
> some momentum with a T1/Frame-relay based multi-point peering fabric which
> came
> online in early '96, but it never got past 5 or 6 participants and didn't
> get
> much traction with some providers in the region.
>     We had talked about doing an ethernet based exchange in the Westin,
> and the
> University of Washington had started talking about building the SNNAP
> (Seattle
> Network to Network Access Point) which started up a mailing list in early
> '97,
> but it seemed to always be just over the horizon. (It eventually launched
> as the
> Pacific Northwest Gigapop, but not until much later, and focused on
> research and
> education orgs).
>     When Chris and I were sitting together at Nanog 10, Bill Manning gave a
> couple presentations - "International Exchange Points: Growth & Trends" and
> "Large & Small Exchange Points: Advantages,Tradeoffs, Futures", and one of
> his
> key points was something along the lines of "any exchange point with 3 or
> more
> participants is a successful exchange point". This was ultimately the final
> nudge that was needed to convince us to start the peering point, and
> shortly
> after we got back from Tampa we threw a hub in on a port I was using for a
> private peering session and we were in business. We've grown a lot since
> then,
> certainly the emergence of Seattle as a key content market helped a lot,
> but I
> think you can draw some parallels.
>     If you measure success as having three participants peering, and you
> find a
> way to get off the ground with minimal costs (or as in our case, none at
> all),
> it's easy to succeed in a not-for-profit model.
>     My advice to you is to not worry about if any out of region folks are
> going
> to show up - find a space that folks operating in the region can get to
> easily,
> build something that is inexpensive to keep online, keep it simple, and
> get 3
> participants. Once you're there - look for the 4th, and so on.
>
> Good luck,
> Nikos
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
>
> > It has been little over a year and we have been working on launching an
> > internet exchange in puerto rico but of course hurricane and other things
> > got in the way of achieving this.
> >
> > We now have identified what we believe the right location (most of the
> > isp’s have presence in this location) backbone/ip transit connectivity,
> > local team to provide onsite support.
> >
> > Having said that We have been engaged with several content delivery
> > networks, OTTs but general feedback was that Puerto Rico was not on their
> > radar for 2018 hence delayed launch. Now we are talking to same players
> > about 2019 but general answer seemed like people were satisfied enough to
> > serve Puerto Rico from Miami.
> >
> > Perhaps we are talking to really big CDNs, OTTs and we should engage
> > differently however the level of interest is very low and I really don’t
> > want to “build and they will come” again ;-)
> >
> > Bottom line is, if there was an IXP in Puerto Rico similar to ones in
> > Florida, I am trying to understand who would actually deploy (just speak
> to
> > your company only please) because most of my assumptions were proven
> wrong
> > ;-)
> >
> > I guess I want to ask two questions, given its location in caribbean,
> does
> > Puerto Rico need an internet exchange point? Would you join it?(it will
> be
> > a membership based IXP where members share cost)
> >
> > Mehmet
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 4:27 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet () akcin net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey there!
> > >
> > > ... ok this time I am not going to call it PRIX ;) well name doesn't
> > > matter really. Nearly 13 years ago I have attempted to start Puerto rico
> > > Internet exchange in San Juan. I have lived there over 5 years and i
> just
> > > wanted to really watch videos faster. The project somewhat died when i
> > > moved to LA but now there are few interested party to start an internet
> > > exchange in Puerto rico. The jsland historically had one of the slowest
> > > broadband/internet services which seemed to have improved in recent
> years
> > > however as of 2017 there still is not an IX in Puerto rico.
> > >
> > > We , 3-4 internet engineers (on island and remote) , want to look into
> > > relaunch of this IX and hopefully find a way to keep local traffic
> > > exchanged at high speeds and low cost. We need expertise, and people who
> > > want to help any way they can.
> > >
> > > We are trying to make this IX a not-for-profit one and we are looking at
> > > opeeating models to adapt which has worked incredibly well like Seattle
> IX.
> > > We are hoping the relaunch to happen sometime in 2018. Thanks in advance
> > > hope to share more info and traffic data sometime , soon. Watch this
> space!
> > > Mehmet
> > --
> > Mehmet
> > +1-424-298-1903

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