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Re: Not announcing (to the greater internet) loopbacks/PTP/infra - how ?


From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:53:10 -0400

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:10 PM Brandon Applegate <brandon () burn net> wrote:
I’ve seen mention on this list and other places about keeping one’s PTPs / loopbacks out of routing tables for 
security reasons.  Totally get this and am on board with it.  What I don’t get - is how.  I’m going to list some of 
my ideas below and the pros/cons/problems (that I can think of at least) for them.

- RFC 1918 for loopbacks and PTP
  - Immediately “protects” from the internet at large, as they aren’t routable.
  - Traceroutes are miserable.

Also breaks PMTUD which can break TCP for everybody whose packets
transit your router. So don't do this.


- Use public block that is allocated to you (i.e. PI) - but not announced.

This works.


- Deaggregate and not announce your infra

Not great.


Another option is to let it be announced but filter the packets at your border.

I wonder if it would be useful to ask the IETF to assign a block of
"origination-only" IP addresses... IP addresses which by standard are
permitted to be the source of ICMP packets but which should be
unreachable by forward routing.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

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William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com  bill () herrin us
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