Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

[Paul Timmins <paul () telcodata us>]

Those days are alive and well. And of course, it hasn't improved any.


On 03/07/2018 12:25 PM, chris wrote:
> reminds me of the days when you were forced to colo gear in the phone
> company's CO to get access to their cable plant and got gouged on power and
> the interconnection between the CO and then you had to buy your upstream
> connectivity from the ILEC a insane markup  or for ptp to your closest pop
> :) not only did you pay a fortune for the privilege but then you had to
> wait 60-90 for the ILEC to "build" the circuit
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:18 PM, James Laszko <jamesl () mythostech com> wrote:
>
> > NRC = non-recurring fee - the setup fee.  They are charging setup fee and
> > monthly fees to run a piece of ethernet.  The xcon fee monthly is 25% of
> > the price of the ethernet service we're getting from the telco....
> >
> >
> > James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:09 AM
> > Cc: nanog <nanog () nanog org>
> > Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing
> >
> > I'm sure he means what he says. The cost to remove the cross connect when
> > you're done with it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >
> > Midwest Internet Exchange
> >
> > The Brothers WISP
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Mel Beckman" <mel () beckman org>
> > To: "Romeo Czumbil" <Romeo.Czumbil () tierpoint com>
> > Cc: "nanog" <nanog () nanog org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:55:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing
> >
> > NRC? Do you mean ETC (early termination charge)?
> >
> > This is a sore point with me in all telco contracts. They want a one- or
> > two-year term, or even three, and in exchange give you a discount on the
> > installation and a tiny MRC reduction. But if you cancel early, they demand
> > full payment for all the remaining months! I realize that the contract is
> > written this way, but why? It doesn’t seem fair at all, and as a service
> > provider myself, I know this is actually a huge unearned windfall for the
> > provider.
> >
> > To make things worse, many providers subtly plant an “auto-renew” clause
> > in their contracts. You miss canceling but the end of the contract date,
> > and BOOM, you’re on the hook for another two years!
> >
> > I’ve been burned by this more than once.
> >
> > -mel
> >
> > > On Mar 7, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Romeo Czumbil <Romeo.Czumbil () tierpoint com>
> > wrote:
> > > Wait till you ask for a disconnect. Then you get hit again for a hefty
> > NRC
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of James Laszko
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:11 AM
> > > To: nanog <nanog () nanog org>
> > > Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing
> > >
> > > One of our colo’s in San Diego was purchased by Zayo recently and I
> > requested a new copper Ethernet xcon to be placed. After a few days I
> > received a quote from my new rep quoting a MRC 3x what I’m currently paying
> > for existing xcon’s as well as a hefty NRC as well. Anyone have any
> > experience with this kind of thing? Anyone care to share what an average
> > copper xcon, single floor, meet-me-room to cage, Ethernet from carrier
> > circuit costs? (This xcon is approx 30 feet..)
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad