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Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix
From: Jim Mercer <jim () reptiles org>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:35:28 -0400
i have been the requestor of such actions before, and i generally sent the take-down request with a referral to the ARIN entry with the netblock, which shows the appropriate contacts. i always sent the request from the account listed as ADMIN contact for the netblock or OrgID. in the request i noted that ARIN is the ultimate arbitor of who "owns" a block, and as such you can validate my request for takedown by contacting me through the details listed on their site. (i then provide the arin.net link). anyone receiving such a request, who validated it through the ARIN data, should probably act on it. if the request is coming from anyone other than the ARIN ADMIN contact, the response should be "we only accept such requests from parties what we can authenticate through ARIN". if the renter, et al, have not updated the ARIN data, then, that is their problem, not yours, as you would have done your due diligence. if they are not authorized by ARIN to speak on behalf of the block, i would be very cautious about proceeding. if they are unable to get the request sent on behalf of the ARIN ADMINs, then, also, i would be very cautious about proceeding. (i suspect that all of this could also apply to RIPE/etc/etc, but i have not had to do so). --jim On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 04:18:48PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Sean Pedersen <spedersen.lists () gmail com> wrote:I was just curious what others have experienced. Since so much of the Internet is "best effort" in terms of validation, I wasn't sure if there was much else that could be done.Hi Sean, The best practice is to go for the status quo while you figure it out. How long have you been announcing the prefix? If only briefly, stop. If you've been announcing it for a long time, keep doing so. The RIR is the arbiter of who controls the address space. That's the purpose of a registry. Reach out to the published POC by email, by phone and if necessary by postal mail. Until you get a response to the query YOU initiated to the POC, stick with the status quo. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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- Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Sean Pedersen (Mar 12)
- RE: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Naslund, Steve (Mar 12)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix james jones (Mar 12)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Matt Harris (Mar 12)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix nop (Mar 12)
- RE: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Sean Pedersen (Mar 12)
- RE: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Naslund, Steve (Mar 12)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix William Herrin (Mar 12)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Jim Mercer (Mar 12)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix nop (Mar 12)
- RE: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Naslund, Steve (Mar 12)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix George William Herbert (Mar 12)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Jason Hellenthal (Mar 12)
- RE: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Sean Pedersen (Mar 13)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Jimmy Hess (Mar 13)
- RE: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Naslund, Steve (Mar 13)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix William Herrin (Mar 13)
- RE: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Naslund, Steve (Mar 13)
- RE: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Sean Pedersen (Mar 13)
- Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix Job Snijders (Mar 13)