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Re: Need /24 (arin) asap


From: Michael Crapse <michael () wi-fiber io>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:56:45 -0600

Never do i suggest to not have ipv6! Simply that no matter what, You still
have to traverse to ipv4 when you exit your ipv6 network onto ipv4 only
services. What IPv4 addresses are you going to use for the NAT64, or
464xlat, or even the business customers that require static IPv4 addresses?
Someone made a statement that getting more ipv6 would solve OP's problem of
finding more clean ipv4 space


On 11 June 2018 at 10:50, Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com> wrote:



On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Michael Crapse <michael () wi-fiber io>
wrote:

For an eyeball network, you cannot count on an IPv6 only network. Because
all of your "customers" will complain because they can't get to hulu, or
any other ipv4 only eyeball service. You still need the ipv4s to operate a
proper network, and good luck figuring out which services are blacklisting
your new /24 because the ipv4 space used to be a VPN provider, and the "in"
thing to do for these services is to block VPNs.


There are many IPv6-only eyeball networks.  Definitely many examples in
wireless (T-Mobile, Sprint, BT ) and wireline (DT with DS-Lite in Germany,
Orange Poland ...) and even more where IPv4 NAT44 + IPv6 is used.  Just
saying, having ipv6 hedges a lot of risk associate with blacklisting and
translation related overhead and potentially scale and cost of IPv4
addresses.




On 11 June 2018 at 09:21, Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com> wrote:

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:43 AM Stan Ouchakov <stano () imaginesoftware com

wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone recommend transfer market brokers for ipv4 addresses? Need
clean /24 asap. ARIN's waiting list is too long...

Thanks!


-Stan

Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA reach them via
ipv6

https://code.facebook.com/posts/635039943508824/how-ipv6-dep
loyment-is-growing-in-u-s-and-other-countries/


And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles

https://blogs.akamai.com/2018/06/six-years-since-world-ipv6-
launch-entering-the-majority-phases.html


And they both report ipv6 is faster / better.






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