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Re: Facebook doesn't have a route to my ISP's (Cogeco) IPv6 space?


From: Clayton Zekelman <clayton () MNSi Net>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:03:47 -0500


Cogent != Cogeco

Cogent - US Backbone Provider
Cogeco - Canadian Cable TV & Internet provider

At 01:00 PM 20/12/2018, David Hubbard wrote:
Google and HE don't have IPv6 connectivity with Cogent because Cogent's CEO has been in some decades long pissing match with them about free settlement free peering. That's the unfortunate reality of the situation; nothing you can do other than have another route to HE/Google IPv6 targets. We have some Cogent circuits that are effectively useless for IPv6 as our customer base has heavy traffic to/from Google cloud services, so they can't be used for a backup / DR scenario; their only real value is an optimal route to other Cogent customers. I'm slowly replacing our Cogent circuits when feasible because the reality is our customers reaching Google over IPv6 via all our upstreams is more valuable than Cogent's cost savings.



On 12/20/18, 12:37 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Brian J. Murrell" <nanog-bounces () nanog org on behalf of brian () interlinx bc ca> wrote:

    I've been trying to figure out why I can reach an IPv6 address at
    Facebook (2a03:2880:f012:3:face:b00c:0:1) through (only) one of my two
    Internet connections as well as via an HE IPv6 tunnel but not the other
    of my two ISP connections

    At one point in time a traceroute was dying inside of he.net:

Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. 2001:1970:5261:d600::1 0.0% 7 2.1 1.3 0.7 2.9 0.8 2. 2001:1970:4000:82::1 0.0% 7 10.0 14.0 8.3 37.9 10.6 3. 2001:1970:0:1a6::1 16.7% 7 13.2 215.5 10.8 1031. 455.9 4. he.ip6.torontointernetxchange.net 0.0% 7 12.3 12.9 11.2 15.3 1.6 5. 100ge9-2.core2.chi1.he.net 0.0% 7 23.6 23.0 21.3 27.6 2.2 6. 100ge15-2.core1.chi1.he.net 0.0% 7 21.7 22.5 21.6 24.9 1.2 7. 100ge12-1.core1.atl1.he.net 0.0% 7 34.2 35.1 34.1 36.1 0.7 8. 100ge5-1.core1.tpa1.he.net 0.0% 7 49.1 46.6 44.8 49.1 1.5 9. 100ge12-1.core1.mia1.he.net 0.0% 7 51.6 54.5 50.5 73.3 8.3
    10. ???

    But I think it getting that far time was an anomaly and frankly it
    usually dies even before exiting my ISP's (Cogeco) network like this:

Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. 2001:1970:5261:d600::1 0.0% 33 0.6 0.7 0.6 1.0 0.1 2. 2001:1970:4000:82::1 0.0% 33 8.2 10.8 8.1 40.5 5.6 3. 2001:1970:0:1a7::1 15.2% 33 23.4 20.1 16.5 23.4 1.5 4. 2001:1970:0:61::1 33.3% 33 16.8 17.6 14.5 25.9 2.5 5. 2001:1978:1300::1 0.0% 33 16.0 17.5 14.2 29.6 3.1 6. 2001:1978:203::45 0.0% 33 30.7 30.7 28.4 35.1 1.7
     7. ???

    When I asked the kind folks at he.net for some advice about the problem
    (i.e. in the first traceroute above) their diagnosis was that
    Facebook's IPv6 router(s) likely didn't have a route back to my Cogeco
    IPv6 address.

    Trying to talk to my ISP (again, Cogeco) has been impossible.  One
    simply cannot reach the people who know more than how to reset your
    router and configure your e-mail.

    I wonder how I could go any further with this to confirm the diagnosis
    that Facebook doesn't have a route to the Cogeco network's IPv6 address
    space given that I only have access to my end of the path.

    Cheers,
    b.



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Clayton Zekelman
Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
Windsor, Ontario
N8W 1H4

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